This doesn't look good for Moscow Mitch McTreason

Enjoy that consolation prize.

 

Perhaps you should be trolling pay-for-play Hillary because she certainly had a lot more unscrupulous dealings with the Russians than anyone. After all, she colluded with them to buy dirty lies about Trump so that she could win an election. I would call that election meddling, wouldn't you? And that's the tip of her Russian iceberg...

 

The GOP blocked the whiners?

 

Your evidence?

 

Refute it.

Provide actual facts. We know Trumpsters aren’t good at that,and the Trumpster’s hero doesn’t even bother!

 

If you'd like we can through your false allegations one by one..............cuz they are all one big steaming pile.

 

I need a lot more information than what has thus far been provided. Frankly from a diplomatic perspective I think we need to reconsider how we are dealing with Russia in any case. It would be of huge benefit to us to find a way to pry Moscow loose from the Beijing, Pyongyang, Tehran, triangle. As near as I can tell no one anywhere seems interested in even finding out what the cost of that would be or how to go about it. In the mean time engagin in actions that only drive the further in that direction strikes me as a bit short sighted.

 

McConnell would be a nice bonus. He is and always has been the definition of a scumbag.

 

Your own article states that Deripaska remains under sanction, And that the relaxation two small entities that have cut ties with Deripaska, please tell me how you plan on breaking up deripraska if you don't reward in some small ways the break aways?

 

You start first with the Russia hoax and how the Democrats are totally innocent despite the info that is coming out DAILY about the Obama administration's meddling in the 2016 election. It happened on HIS watch, you know.The DNC and MSM seem to have done a fantastic job with the indoctrination of their minions. They have hoodwinked, hoaxed, misled, fooled, deluded, deceived, snookered, and bamboozled their followers into believing that the Democrats have right on their side and that those who choose to think for themselves must be "eradicated," because it threatens their power. It can only be their way, otherwise you are shamed, defamed, attacked and doxxed, How Nazi-like...The party was built on white supremacy and was called the "white man's party" and just went downhill from there.
Since you write all this "tripe" why don't you tell us in a condensed version, of course, YOUR truth as a true-blue Democrat. How are Republicans wrong about Democrats?

 

Here is the question you asked. "What's your evidence for the sanctions having been blocked."

I provided the evidence. Now you are trying to muddy the waters. Rusal would not have been allowed to invest in the plant if not for McConnell's efforts in blocking the sanctions favored by a bipartisan group of congressional Dems and Repubs.

 

I agree that creating a better relationship with Russia would be good for all concerned. However this whole attempt by Russia to try to get an in with the Trump administration seems to be embroiled in this whole Magnitsky Act business. If you believe what was written in Bill Browder’s book Red Notice, Putin and many of those around him are murderous crooks. This Deripaska guy reportedly has close ties to Putin and was involved with Trumps campaign manager and now McConnell. Can you see why some people are concerned about this?

 

Well, when it comes with attached baggage like this, yes! You should too!

Oleg Deripaska was Paul Manafort’s bankroll. Manafort owed Deripaska $19 million. Taht’s why Manafort offered to be Trump’s campaign manager for free.

Shortly after getting that job, Manafort approached Deripaska offering to provide the Russians (and his close confidant Vladimir Putin) with inside information from the Trump campaign. Thus the Russians would know what was going on in the Trump Campaign, but not the American public (collude much????). He wanted to “wipe the slate clean”.

Shortly after Manafort’s second conviction, Trump unilaterally cancelled sanctions against Deripashka’s company.

McConnell blocked the vote to reinstate them.

Shortly after that, Deripashka announced that he was building an aluminum plant in McConnell’s district.

Much of this is documented in the Mueller Report. The sanctions gambit and the announcement came more recently.

 

This goes right to “drain the swamp”

Trump appeared to be riding a white charger to eliminate the insider dealing and institutional corruption in Washington. This is what that phrase was supposed to mean.

Most of us who know about Trump’s career and business dealings knew better.

Instead, we got the most corrupt American President in US history (Warren Harding take note!), who has stacked his cabinet and staff with “acting” lobbyists who are dealing on behalf of their own industries.

Trump flagrantly violates the emoluments clause, setting example at the top. He would be in violation of the Hatch Act too, were President’s not exempt. So Trump supporters can take comfort in knowing that their hero is campaigning on their taxpayer dime.

The McConnell/Deripashky story is classic swampiness.

But the Trumpsters are now defending the deepest recesses of the swamp.

 

What extra baggage?

What does Manafort have to do with this? After his conviction?

Of course the President can unilaterally loosen restrictions he put in place.

McConnell blocked no vote....the left in Jan tried to pass a "rebuke" of Trump loosing some restrictions right after they took the House, and the Senate blocked that "rebuke"

None of this is in the Mueller Report...there is no mention of Kentucky

 

Now you’re just being obtuse for the sake of it!

Manafort has everything to do with this. And you know it too.

Deripaska let Manafort slide in return for favorable sanctions treatment from Trump.

Congress, piqued by Trump’s pro Putin politics, went to reinstate the sanctions.

McConnell blocked it and got his payback.

The OP documented this well.

Only the most obtuse and deliberately blind Trumpster would not see the obvious.

 

Not following your wild conspiracy theory is not being obtuse

 

Why don't you begin there. But remember, wildass, unsubstantiated conspiracy theories are not acceptable as a way to prove your theory.

 

Because this is the most corrupt, scandal ridden admin in.........perhaps ever........a pay for play scheme like this involving Putin pal Deripaska barely gets a notice.
If Chuck Schumer had done what McConnell did following Putin helping Hillary get elected after she hired a campaign manager who was indebted to a criminal oligarch...............it sounds crazy that such a thing is even possible..........but it happened in Trumplandia.

 

Sanctions involve specific things, like the sanctions had to be lifted for the Aluminum Oligarch of Russia, before he can do business in the US. More is a number, not the same sanctions.

 

Yes the President has been much tougher over all on Russia, but did lift some sanctions in regards to the second largest Aluminum company in the world, because it was having a negative impact on the United States as well.

 

What negative impact, besides just making it up to justify the decision?

 

The sanctions should be lifted. Not everyone wants to live in the neocon fantasy world where the cold war is still in full gear and we need practice "duck and cover". It is time for the US to stop acting like a moron on the world stage and for us to take our economic future seriously.

 

The price of aluminum for one, additionally, as the op highlighted it was keeping a plant from being built and people from being employed

 

Aluminum requires large amounts of electricity to make from bauxite, but once it's made, it can be recycled. The bauxite ore has generally come from the Caribbean and is shipped in bulk to areas near where large hydroelectric dams were built during the Depression by people who didn't have electricity. Aluminum production was very important in WWII and baby boomers were growing up in the days when the US dominated world production of aluminum and all strategic materials. We haven't built an aluminum mill in 40 years, because we didn't need one. We started recycling aluminum a long time ago and using the electricity for other things. Based on the past, I doubt the people living in hundreds of miles of those dams pay half what is normally paid for electricity.

I have enough sense to know the subject doesn't involve keeping a plant from being built and people from being employed, because Kentucky isn't the only place to build an aluminum mill and may not be the most logistically best place. Based on the evidence I've seen, I don't believe 'Moscow'.