I am the Chosen One

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I chose Trump to, in part, stand up to China. I laughed a lot when he swept his arms out and proclaimed it so dramatically, but he's still correct- he is chosen to do precisely that. Chosen by me and many Americans. And its good that he knows it.
     
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  2. Bush Lawyer

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    Hmmmm....are you in the Heavens to which he looked when he said it? Am I communicating with a Spirit?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You might be.

    Though its far more likely that Trump was being dramatic and you're leaping to rediculous conclusions.
     
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    I like him ... he is funny.
    Far better than Hussain Obamba
     
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    It is far more likely that he has a Messiah complex heaviliy overlain with Narcissism. In those stakes, he thrashes even Assange. That he can so readily grab that terminolgy and roll it so glibly off his tongue puts the lie to your assertion of 'dramatics.' Nah, it is delusions of spectacular spiritual, intellectual and pompous grandeur so much so that I'd love to by him at my price and sell at his.
     
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    Yes, far better to have a clown painted in orange as POTUS, isn't it.
     
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    Yes, Clowns usually are painted .. orange .. black ..
     
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    I don't think anyone disputes that, most every person at that level is no different. Some just go beyond it to become sociopaths such as Hillary.
     
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    Well, he is the chosen one. The American people chose him to be their President. :lol:
     
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    He was legitimately elected based on America's system of government, after winning the electoral college vote by a decent margin. He was the choice (between the choices offered) of millions of what would constitute the "American people", but certainly there were even more "American people" who didn't vote for him since he lost the popular vote.
     
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    And the “king if Israel” claim?
     
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    You bought $2 million of goods which would cost a lot more for you to produce and sold $1 million of goods so where is the problem?
     
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    Actually the answer is clearly yes, much much worse. Perhaps you could point out the consequence of someone not knowing the exact number of states (Obama obviously does though) and compare to the obvious consequences of a President not knowing that trade deficits are not losses
     
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    That’s not true.
    You didnt just send money to another country for nothing. For your $2M you got $2M worth of steel, grain, oil or whatever. You could technically resell those goods at cost and get your $2M back. So, $2m is not a loss, no matter how you look at it.
    The other country, has our $2M in currency now. It can use the currency in numerous ways - it can stash it to stabilize the value of its own currency, or it can buy something from us using that currency. Or they can sell it to a third country that needs it for some reason (again, own currency stabilization or trade with us).

    That’s actually where many “USD reserve currency” freaks get it wrong - each transaction involves 2 sides - currency and goods and services. Each unit of currency out there was traded for something valuable. No one will just dump it because everyone needs it to trade with the US.
     
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    Oh jeez the simple-minded.

    If you buy 2x as much of their crap and they buy of yours, it's called a wealth transfer. No matter how it's spun, it's simple business.
     
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    So, now what? Should we all Conservatives stop supporting him and vote for ole Joe Bite_me? :)
     
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    We chose Trump. He is the chosen one.
     
  18. Iranian Monitor

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    The total value of good and services produced that chase a currency will determine its worth. Ordinarily, when a currency doesn't hold the sway the US dollar holds in international trade, that means that a country that produces less than it imports from abroad, will find its currency lose its value and standing. In the US, however, there is a demand for the US dollar as the currency in international trade and not what is imported or exported from the US. That means that as long as the US dollar occupies this position, ultimately trade deficits (or even the budget deficit and the national debt) don't have as much import as they would otherwise. Put differently, as long as China is willing to buy US bonds (redeemable in US dollar and a different form of the paper instrument or IOU which is the US dollar) because it can buy goods and services from around the globe using those US dollars, it doesn't matter (except for the workers and entrepreneurs in the particular industry affected by it) that you run a trade deficit with China. In fact, you are actually running a ponzi scheme in which the Chinese are giving you valuable products in return for the paper you print. This is the basic whole premise on which the global international financial system which is pegged to the US dollar and which is run by it, is based right now. It allows the US to live beyond its means and produce much less of real value without its people suffering as much as they would otherwise.

    There are, of course, legitimate voices who aren't happy with the global economic system. It is a ponzi scheme and those who aren't sharing in the profits from this scheme will have good reason to be dissatisfied with it. But for Americans, who sit on top of the ponzi scheme, it is actually giving them a lot of unearned income and benefits, even if all ponzi schemes (even the most clever ones) eventually collapse.

    In this mix, those people like Trump who are burdening this ponzi scheme with the projects for a New American Century of hegemony, trying to destroy the productive capacities in various economies while waging trade wars with countries who are actually playing a critical role propping up this ponzi scheme (including China), are setting the stage for the collapse of this ponzi scheme sooner than it might have collapsed on its own. That is simply because the day when we have fewer products produced chasing US dollars, is the day when the US dollar will begin tumbling down in value -- and no one will be interested to finance America's standard of living by giving up valuable items for its paper instruments, be they the American dollar or its treasury bonds that finance its deficits. Trump and the neocons around him are in some ways like the modern version of the Mongols: they might prove quite effective in vandalizing much of the globe, but they won't leave much in terms of legacy except a world in ruins.
     
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    More likely because she's a woman in power. Hence his use of the word "nasty," his favorite epithet for such women. They scare him senseless.
     
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    A minority chose him, and in order for him to win, had to rely upon a party that cheats the system by gerrymandering, and manufactured voting restriction laws.
     
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    Easily. Even the President can't know everything although one would expect him to know how many states are in the union regardless of how tired he may be.

    Trump's advisors will know the difference.
     
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    :applause:
     
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    My bold, both are paid off by banks, business and special interest groups; If s***hole countries allowed that it would be called corruption.
     
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    Media had the customary spontaneous ‘splodey head. I love the way Trump sets off the lefties hysteria.
     
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    There are Americans who voted for Trump, imagining that his wealth would insulate him from the corruption that has taken over American politics. Not recognizing several things about their choice in the process:
    1- the guy is a pig -- he doesn't need anyone to corrupt him. He is corrupt on his own: a narcissist with a short attention span, a thin skin, and a world view that is borrowed from whatever he gets to watch on the telly (usually FOX), which means a worldview that is ultimately colored by the messages intended for the gullible by one faction of the special interest groups at play in American politics.
    2- Trump's past is one that did bring him in contact with a lot of dirt and corruption. He has borrowed extensively from the mafia type figures associated with certain Jewish Russian mobster types and others who were busy cashing in on the crony capitalism of the Yeltsin years in Russia. While he doesn't see himself beholden to them necessarily, those associations steered him in a direction that his familial ties through his son-in-law merely facilitated.
    3- if you want to fix a system that is corrupt, you don't vote for someone who seems in love with its most corrupt elements.
     
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