How can the Left be so clueless?

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  1. Mac-7

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    And naturally since you have the imprint of a fencepost engraved on your ass you aint to blame for nuthin bout nuthin
     
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    Is the discussion about blame, or is it about analysis?

    I did not realize you had seen my ass. Did you like it?
     
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    Oh yeah. The guy the entire Obama administration and reps from four or five other countries tried to take down, but haven't been able to touch.

    What a dummy.
     
  4. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No they don't. They want them to keep depending on the Democrats to throw them a fish once in awhile. Not stand on their own feet.
     
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    Well I admit listening to Trump talk, he sounds like he never made it past 6th grade. But can't deny he is smart enough to get this country back on it's feet and give us a good economy, fixed the VA, got NATO to pony up and got our military fixed. It's unbelievable.
     
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    And they read the New York Times and the Washington Post and Wall Street journal and other Pulitzer Prize winning news sources. Everyone is against the right so it must be a conspiracy or perhaps trumps base is just what he loves ... uneducated
     
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    Look at some of the things Trump has done in just two years. This is besides the hot economy he created with his policies. I bet the Democrats haven't heard any of this. You have to wonder why. (((Trump's FDA approving wave of generic drugs to lower drug prices ...
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    What the massive US military budget pays for
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    When President Donald Trump signed the $1.3 trillion omnibus spending bill on Friday, he approved what his administration calls the largest military budget in US history, $700 billion.( to fix the mess Obama left the military in.
    Grounded: Nearly two-thirds of US Navy’s strike fighters ...
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    Overhauls — "availabilities" in Navy parlance — are being canceled or deferred, and when ships do come in they need longer to refit. Every carrier overall for at least three years has run long, and some submarines are out of service for prolonged periods, as much as four years or more. One submarine, the Boise, has lost its diving certification …

    70% of Marine Aircraft Can't Fly - …
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    Out of 276 F/A-18 Hornet strike fighters in the Marine Corps inventory, only about 30% are ready to fly, according to statistics provided by the Corps. Similarly, only 42 of 147 heavy-lift CH-53E Super Stallion helicopters are airworthy.

    Real change finally comes to the VA, thanks to Trump
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opi.../op-eds/real-change...
    Real change finally comes to the VA, thanks to Trump. By ... The VA Mission Act is designed to create effective fixes for these ... This bill does real good. House Veterans Affairs Committee ...

    Trump Sworn In: Corrupt VA Employees Are Finally Fired
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    Leftist America realizes that Trump doesn't mince words. While Obama promised to fix the VA and did nothing, Trump fires VA employees...

    Scoop: Trump finally losing patience with VA Sec. …
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    Scoop: Trump finally losing patience with VA Sec. Shulkin. Shulkin (L) at a cabinet meeting last week. Photo: Michael Reynolds-Pool/Getty Images. It took a few weeks to land on his radar, but President Trump now views Veterans Affairs Sec. David Shulkin as a major problem. Trump has been telling associates he doesn't know what's …
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    keep paging down and see some more.
     
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    Rachel Maddox is a Rhodes scholar...a brilliant woman
     
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    Analysis of the left

    But you cant resist your usual MO of attacking conservatives
     
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    Smart enough to split the atom but too stupid to come in out of the rain
     
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    Surely you were on board with bump stock bans and the First Step Act? How about thinking harder. I’m sure there are many more policies you would have applauded if someone else was the president.

    It’s ok to be intellectually honest. I loathed most of what President Obama did. But a couple things I loved that he supported were same sex marriage and relaxation of civil asset seizure/forfeiture. Unfortunately the Trump administration is taking us the wrong way on the civil asset thing.

    Trump is continuing the precedent set by Obama of not trying to enforce federal law in states that legalized weed. You mad about that, too? Judge people by what they do, not by what you are told to think about them by others.
     
  12. Marine1

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    Obama said, "Trump would need a magic wand to bring those jobs back"




    LG Electronics Building U.S. Factory After President Trump Criticism ...
    Fortune.com/2017/02/28/lg-electronics-us-factory/
    Feb 28, 2017 - LG rival Samsung Electronics was also considering building a U.S. Manufacturing plant as a response to criticisms about imports from Trump,
    ExxonMobil


    On March 6, CEO Darren Woods said the company is investing $20 billion in Gulf Coast manufacturing operations over 10 years, creating 45,000 jobs.
    Charter Communications

    On March 24, Charter Communications announced plans to invest $25 billion in the United States and to hire 20,000 American workers in the next four years.
    U.S. Steel: 10,000 Jobs

    Next, during a December 7 broadcast of CNBC’s Power Lunch, the CEO of U.S. Steel Mario Longhi said that after the election of Donald Trump, he has “felt an environment of positive optimism where forces are converging to provide for a better environment,” which he hopes means he can rehire up to 10,000 employees who had been laid off.

    IBM: 25,000 Jobs

    A week after U.S. Steel noted its bullish outlook on the U.S. Economy, computing giant IBM also found its outlook had brightened and reported that it expects to create up to 25,000 new jobs in the U.S.

    Hasbro is to start making play-doh in the U.S. Again.

    U.S. Hasbro, Inc. Is returning to the U.S. And will make the beloved children’s modeling clay in a Massachusetts factory rather than in China or Turkey.

    Toyota and Mazda to build $1.6 billion factory in the U.S ...
    Money.CNN.com/2017/08/04/news/economy/Mazda-Toyota-jobs-factory...
    Aug 04, 2017 · Toyota and Mazda have announced plans to build a $1.6 billion manufacturing plant in the United States that will create as many as 4,000 jobs.



    Fiat Chrysler Is Moving a Plant From Mexico to Michigan ...
    Fortune.com/2018/01/12/fiat-Chrysler-Michigan-Mexico-nafta
    Fiat Chrysler said it will shift Ram pickup truck production from Mexico to Michigan, lowering risk if President Trump pulls out of NAFTA.

    Apple creates 2,000 jobs shifting production back to US ...
    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/05/apple-creates...
    Apple creates 2,000 jobs shifting production back to US ... Engineering and construction jobs at a new plant in ... The first Macintosh computer made in America since ...



    Bayer AG (ADR)


    Bayer representatives announced that as part of their purchase of Monsanto, they were committing to keeping Monsanto’s 9,000 U.S. Jobs in the country, plus adding 3,000 new high-tech jobs for American workers.


    Ford Motor Company (NYSE:F)




    Ford Motor Company had been planning to build a $1.6 billion factory in Mexico.

    Instead, the company announced it was cancelling the Mexican car factory and added that it would invest $700 million to expand its Flat Rock Michigan factory. The money will go toward manufacturing high-tech electric, hybrid and autonomous cars and adds 700 U.S. Jobs.

    Hyundai Motor Co


    The South Korean auto maker announced it will boost its spending in the U.S. By 50% over planned levels, spending $3.1 billion over the next five years.

    That money will go to retooling Hyundai’s existing U.S. Factories and research into high-tech systems such as autonomous vehicles. Hyundai said it is also considering building a new factory specifically to build premium vehicles for the U.S. Market.

    The company didn’t give specific number for job creation, but with that kind of expenditure — and the possibility of a new factory — it’s definitely going to be more jobs for American workers.



    Intel chief meets with Trump about plan to create 3,000 manufacturing jobs in Arizona

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/8/intels-brian-krzanich-announces-plan-3000-jobs/


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-3-000-manufacturing-jobs-in-arizona.495486/


    Newscentermaine.com | Why Apple is bringing billions back home
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    A second corporate campus, an additional 20,000 workers and a $350 billion commitment. That's Apple's pledge to the U.S. As the tech giant announced a sweeping set of moves Wednesday to bring back billions of its offshore cash and spur economic growth. The plan also includes paying $38 billion in taxes.


    Stanley Black and Decker closing China plant.... moving to ...
    https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/stanley-black-and-decker-closing-china-plant-moving-to/83525376/ · Jun 21, 2019

    Chinese Co, moving to Ohio
    His company, Fuyao Glass, has invested over $1 billion stateside, according to the Post, the most significant move of which is opening its U.S. factory in the Ohio town of Moraine, a suburb of Dayton, back in October. The glass maker is re-purposing the town’s former General Motors assembly that had been standing empty since late 2008, as the Dayton Daily News reports.

    According to Ohio TV station WDTN, the plant now employs a workforce of almost 2,000, and Cao expects that the fully operational facility will employ up to 3,000 workers.

    https://fortune.com/2016/12/22/us-china-manufacturing-costs-investment/



    More Chinese companies moving to U.S.

    Tianyuen Garments Co.
    In October of last year, Tianyuan Garments Co. acquired a defunct 100,000-square foot metal fabrications plant in Little Rock, Arkansas and announced a $20 million investment that will make them the first Chinese manufacturing company to manufacture clothing in the US. The company is refurbishing the facility set to open later this year and plans to employ 400 workers to produce clothes for brands like Adidas, Reebok, and Armani.

    Sun Paper Industry
    Another big announcement from a Chinese manufacturing company in the past year is from Chinese paper products maker, Sun Paper Industry. They recently announced a $1 billion investment that will create 250 US jobs at their new bio-products mill in South Arkansas.

    Local and state governments in the US are able to offer incentives to foreign companies that tip the scales in favor of moving from China to the US. Many Chinese manufacturing companies are now realizing that the lower transportation costs and taxes are making it more profitable to do business in North America than in Asia. As the trend grows, the Chinese companies who provide so many manufactured goods to the North American market are finding that employing American workers is the most profitable method of production.
     
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    Trump's Policy "Magic Wand" Boosts Manufacturing Jobs 399% In First 26 Months Over Obama's Last 26 https://www.forbes.com/.../trumps-policy-magic-wand.../...



    The Left bitched because he got tough with our NATO Allies. Said he was driving our Allies away. Both Bush and Obama tried to get NATO to put their fair share into a very weak NATO without success. Trump got it. ( Nato members increase defence spending by $100 billion ...
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/27/nato-members-increase-defence-spending-100...
    Jan 27, 2019 · Nato states will increase their defence spending by $100 billion in response to Donald Trump's demands that European allies shoulder a greater financial burden, the …
    Author: Julie Allen
    NATO head praises Trump for tough talk to member countries
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    Jan 27, 2019 · WASHINGTON – The head of NATO on Sunday praised President Trump for demanding member countries pony up more money, saying Trump’s tough talk has produced “real results.” “President Trump….
     
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    They are both silly pundits on opposite sides of the spectrum.

    Hannity is an out and out liar who advances crazy conspiracy theories and evidently he was ordered by his boss Roger Ailes early in the 2016 primaries to keep his nose as far up Trumps ass as possible. Hannity serves as a full time Trump ass licker still.

    Maddow is a little more educated and intelligent but she picks out only stories which advance her personal political beliefs and slants them drastically. She usually omits anything positive about her target. Her show is an obvious and transparent Democratic Party tool.
     
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    And she does the same thing as hannity, with a much smaller viewership.
     
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    Lets look and see who has really given into the Russians. The bias news won't tell you.




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    The Anti-Obama: Trump Selling Missile Defense To Poland ...
    https://www.dailywire.com/.../anti-obama-trump-selling... When Barack Obama capitulated to Russia in 2010 by removing missile launchers in Poland that neared the Russian border? There’s a new sheriff in town. On Wednesday, the Polish state news agency PAP reported that Poland’s government will buy the Patriot missile defense system from the U.S.



    Trump in Poland: U.S. To Sell Warsaw Arms to Stop 'Hot …
    ://www.newsweek.com/trump-Poland-Warsaw-us-arms-Russia... A move set to counter Russia’s reinforcement on NATO's borders, Poland and the U.S. Have agreed that Warsaw will purchase the American-made Patriot air defense missile, the Polish government announced Thursday. Trump delighted many in Poland when he announced he would be visiting the country .
    ..
    Trump Sends Tank-Killing Missile To Fight Russia in ...
    ://www.newsweek.com/trump-tank-killing-missile-fight... Trump administration approved the sale of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine on Friday as it continues to fight pro-Russian forces in the eastern part of the country, a move that has angered the Kremlin and signifies the U.S. …

    The President of Ukraine asked Obama for weapons to defend his country against Russian backed Ukrainian insurgents wanting to take over the country. Obama gave them food, uniforms, night vision glasses and blankets. NO WEAPONS. The Ukrainian President said later, you can't fight a war with blankets. Trump gave them the weapons pissing the Russians off.
    Trump admin announced fresh sanctions on Russia - CNNPolitics
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    Jan 26, 2018 · The Trump administration announced new sanctions Friday related to Russia's occupation of Crimea and ongoing violence in eastern Ukraine, just days ahead of a congressionally mandated deadline for ...

    Trump administration withdraws from U.S.-Russia nuclear weapons ...

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    1 day ago - Trump administration withdraws from nuclear weapons treaty, .... Closely review the security implications of Russian intermediate-range missiles and ... Theme he has hit on since Trump's decision to nix the Iran nuclear accord, .


    Hundreds of Russian Fighters Killed in US Airstrikes in Syria
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    Hundreds of Russian Fighters Killed in US Airstrikes in Syria. Many of the Russians killed or injured were veterans of the Ukraine conflict, according to Alexander Ionov, the head of a Kremlin-funded organization that fosters ties to separatists who’s fought alongside pro-Assad forces in Syria.


    Russia will pay a big price for arms control treaty violations | Fox News

    https://www.foxnews.com › opinion › russia-will-pay-a-big-price-for-arms-c...

    Feb 23, 2019 - The Russian president's deep anger at America and NATO is eating him up ... RUSSIA MUST DEVELOP NEW MISSILE SYSTEMS IN RESPONSE ... Could it be that Putin wants to negotiate arms control with President Trump?
     
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    You don't think MSNBC and CNN aren't doing the same thing for the Democratic Party? There is a reason the Left has no idea of all that Trump has done and that's because CNN, MSNBC, CBS aren't telling people any of it. Granted Hannity is all Trump. But Fox does have full and part time commentators that are Liberals. How many conservatives can you show me on any of those stations?
     
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    America was divided more than a few years before Trump showed up on the radar screen.

    One could accurately say, America became divided under Barack Obama.

    Even the SPLC said any one who didn't vote for Obama was a racist.
     
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    Meanwhile, President Bonespurs is undermining the NATO alliance by de-emphasizing the importance of strong democracies with his tacit approval of numerous dictators like the anti-democratic populist Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, signaling to Russia that aggressive behavior towards its neighbors will not just be tolerated but rewarded, and suggesting that the US should pull out of the alliance altogether.
     
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    Not sure about the VA to be honest but I doubt it is "fixed" - although Trump at least did some good things there. Your claim with respect to NATO is false - they have not ponied up anything .. just lip service as has been the case for decades.

    The idea that our Military is fixed is profound nonsense.
     
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    No. And you have no evidence they are other than the same sorts of false equivalences Trumpette's always rely on.
     
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    "How can the Left be so clueless?"
    Indoctrination.
     
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    Bull crap Lee, that video and a lot of the post put up on this thread shows you Liberals have no idea of what Trump has done. Your getting your news from those stations I mentioned and it shows they aren't telling you guys none of it. Why is that Lee, they are suppose to be news stations, why aren't they telling you?
     
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    Something is unbelievable, but not what you think it is.
     

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