Trump Allies Target Journalists Over Coverage Deemed Hostile to White House

Accepting illegals and open borders are the same exact thing.

 

Good question. @Mac7, from time to time, congratulates me on being a principled liberal. And upon reflection, I guess I am, a kind of raised-from-a-60-year-deep-sleep 1960s FDR/JFK liberal.

But such a person today is much more at home among people who call themselves conservatives, than among people who call themselves liberals. Or at least I am. It would not be honest of me to call myself a liberal, and conservatives are used to having a great variety of people under their Big Tent -- from Libertarians (sort of) all the way over to people who are so Catholic that they refuse to recognize any Pope since Vatican II. (They really exist: I lost $100 to one such betting that Trump would lose the election.) We all sort of get along.And this variety makes for interesting debates.

But if I could invent my own label, I would say I'm a "C-Cubed" person: for Civilization-Common Sense-Civility.

So when I read about students at Stanford marching across campus chanting "Ho Ho Ho, Western Civ has got to go!" I know I can't be with them. ("Western Civ" referred to an introductory history course, but hey, that' dead-white-male-centric or something. What about the contributions to civilization of the Yamomami Indians? )

When I hear proposals to put transgenders in command of Marine Rifle Companies, balanced by some nubile young women mixed into the ranks, I think I'm in Alice-in-Wonderland. I would rather argue with people whose reaction to that ideas is that it's insane, about how to accommodate women and gays and transexuals in the military without destroying combat efficiency, than 'argue' (I would just be shouted down) with the sort of people who think that's a good idea, because equal rights.

And as for civility ... I want to be able to wear a MAGA hat, or a Hillary Hat, anywhere I go without being physically assaulted. I don't claim that every Trump voter would adhere to the rule of civility, but I have never heard a conservative defending roughing up liberals, and I have seen the opposite (Because we're racists and white supremacists, you see.) . (In the past, by the way, conservatives were not so pure, and I am going to post something about that at some point.)

 

In reading about the history of Vietnam i was shocked reading about how LBJ wanted union steelworkers and other tradesmen to rough up anti war protesters.

 

I don't remember that, but in New York City the 'hard hats' -- construction workers -- attacked anti-war marches. You can read more about it here .

 

.. institutions full of corrupt individuals who are doing their best to increase the mass immigration, the trade deficit, the budget deficit and to increase the public debt, preparing the next economic crisis.

 

The very cause of the problem is the culture of hate promoted in the media. Just open CNN for 5 minutes and see how much ridicule and hate they promote against Trump and against anyone who dares to be worried about mass immigration. Or enter the website of New York Times or Washington Post to see the same thing.
Today, it is unthinkable for the socialists to be against mass immigration. And that's because all this culture of hate promoted by the media. And by the NGO's paid by Soros. They created a mass hysteria and the socialists (and not only the socialists) are supporting mass immigration and they are very hateful and violent towards the people who dare to disagree with them.
Therefore, the people who are worried about mass immigration have no other choice than to vote for the nationalist parties. There are no socialist parties to stand against mass immigration. This is what we need today - socialist parties who oppose mass immigration.

In all this hysteria and madness created by the media and by the NGO's financed by Soros, the socialists accuse the average citizen of being a Nazi simply because those average citizens are worried about mass immigration.
The raise of nationalism is created by the very hysteria of the socialists. In this culture of hate, it is absolutely not surprising at all that the socialists call the nationalists "Nazi" and "Fascists".
Because that's the very essence of hysteria and madness - they create deafness and the incapacity to have a clear and decent judgement.

 

The more violent the socialists become, the more the response of the nationalists will be to get more and more angry. In the future, there is a big chance of civil war and massive and catastrophic changes in the USA society. Also Europe is in danger.
A big part of the white people feel under siege and they feel harassed - wherever they settle, the other races come to ask for asylum and jobs, gradually building a situation where they leave the white people a minority in their own homeland.
The continuation of this situation can only end in an eruption of violence. In the end, the white people will try to ask for protection from Russia and probably even from China.

And that's exactly what the elites are preparing: global chaos. They prepare a devastating economic crisis (check the increasing public debt of the USA which is going to collapse the retirement funds), combined with a demographic change where the majority of the USA population will be Latin Americans - and then the country will be a living night mare, just like Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Honduras, Haiti etc.
They try to do that with Europe too.
They try to create a horrible situation that can never be reversed. Then it will be too late to wake up from this "socialist" hysteria.

So indeed, it is possible for the nationalists to find a leader who will achieve unquestioning obedience from his followers. That person will not be Trump but someone with more appetite for such things. Trump is just an ambitious man with a big ego and little planning, he doesn't want unquestioning obedience, he is simply not interested in that.
But it is the very hysteria and violence of the "socialists" that is building to that end.
And the very cause of these incoming catastrophic transformations are the super-rich (the international bankers) who control a large part of the Western politics, the wealth, the media and the NGO's and who are using their influence to increase the intolerance and the violence of the "socialists".

 

Again, do you agree that Acosta broke the rules? You seem to be implying that he did break them but he was justified in doing so.

 

Oh, so it had nothing to do with the uselessness of Clinton?

 

"Leaned politically?"

 

Not if you believe what Clinton says in her book. But...it is a fair point. Polling had Trump nowhere so the apathetics stayed home.

 

Right, so then I guess if Obama ran in 2016 instead of 2008, the same people would've stayed home and not voted for him!

 

It seems so.

 

...based on?

 

This is an "open border"...



This is not...

 

No one wants to stop foreigners who have a valid visa

Its the illegals that cant pass border checkpoints that we dont want in America

 

The media are amplifying the situations and events you describe above.

My take: old people spend a lot of time watching infotainment "news" and feeding off the conflict and intensity. We're drawing our entertainment from every corner of a nation of 325m people.

 

Democrats aren't suggesting we get rid of our border controls. The Liar-in-Chief claims they want what's in the top picture when they support what we have below.

 

Obama never called the free press the "enemy of the people." You're wrong.

 

Yes, in that case he was. The "rules" are Trump's BS and merit having someone respond negatively.

 

If people come to this country illegally or stay in an illegal manner and a city actively works against the government to find and deport them. That just encourages more of them to come here..

The reasoning behind it is to get more democratic voters.
It's nothing but callous vote harvesting, well they hope one day to get these people voting.

 

As i said sanctuary cities should be cut off from all federal funds.

 

Fake News was called the enemy of the people, and Obama had his FBI to actually spy on members of the press. It's easily researched if you start with James Rosen.

 

It's also another way to divide the country when people begin deciding which laws to follow and which to ignore. The resulting chaos is coming from the Left.

 

Yet you resist closing the border to illegal entry by building a wall as needed with electronic monitoring everywhere else

So the practical result of your policy is wide open borders and millions of unwanted illegal aliens entering the country