Trump Allies Target Journalists Over Coverage Deemed Hostile to White House

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  1. Doug1943

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    This is not wrong, but ... there is a general liberal-leftish bias in the Mainstream Media which is independent of the deplorable Mr Trump and which precedes him by many years, although it is getting stronger.

    As for Fox News, you know what you're getting, and although I don't watch it, the various episodes from it which I have seen on YouTube videos have led me to believe that it is a lot more 'fair and balanced' than some conservative news sites I regularly see. In any case, they report news that the MSM will not.

    I remember a Soviet intellectual arguing to a Westerner that, actually, he, the Soviet, was more free in his thinking, because in the Soviet Union, the people KNEW that Pravda and Izvestia were simply Party organs which would not hesitat to lie and distort, so they fooled no one, whereas in the West, you believed that your press was relatively objective, so you swallowed their lies all the more easily.
     
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    Will you please stop all this god cursed semantic quibbling and being purposely obtuse. You're not fooling anybody. I mean functionally, not in the sense of any actual delineated party name. Sorta like conservatives are always calling Democrats socialists and worse, but you know that and so do I.
     
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    What do you mean they "supported" him?

    And they don't deserve it?

    There's nothing wrong with when they report his lies, distortions and exaggerations.
     
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    Reality has a leftist bias.
     
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    What the hell does that mean?
     
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    Just what it says.
     
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    Im no kid been around the block longer than many and the press always leaned politically, many years ago it was called Yellow Journalism instead of Fake news
    Look youre all intelligent you all know that any writer can slant any article the way they want with the use of certain well placed words.

    Today however there is no shade on biased reporting, they are flat out lying to the american people and they dont care, the same outlets have had many retractions, apologies and have been busted outright lying.

    CNN, MSNBC being the worst of the cable news and the NYTs and Wapo being the worst of print

    There have been so many of Lawrence Odonnel lies they are not countable. This wasnt only with trump, Dan Rather was lying regularly about Bush and not was finally forced out.
     
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    I qualified it as my opinion. I don't have to prove my opinion is my opinion
     
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    No one said otherwise

    The anti trump lib media can attack trump

    And trump voters can attack the biased lib media

    Something for everyone
     
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    Trump was not present at the white house news conference where acosta made a scene
     
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    In spirit they work for the Democratic Party. "Journolist" provides their talking points and phrase du jour..
     
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    My opinion is that you hate Trump because he beat the Tar out of Hillary Clinton and you're still sore about it and therefore believe every lie CNN can come up with. Not because you think thoes lies to be true but simply because you hate.
     
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    Clinton was a Southern governor who ran for President as a centrist Democrat. Nice try.
    The tradition of providing sanctuary goes back to abolitionists hiding escaped slaves.

    Sanctuary cities in 2009 are simply refusing to use local officials to enforce federal law. I don't hear the cities suggesting we do away with border controls (a la France and Germany).
     
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    This is the end point --- no, it's not anywhere near the end -- of about fifty years of a slow change in the way the American intelligentsia view their own country.

    Most journalists and similar people have been 'liberal' for a long time. Sixty to seventy years ago, it meant distaste for McCarthyism, and sympathy for the oppressed Blacks in the American Souith. It also meant opposition to Communism (by the late 40s, American liberals had gotten over their romance with Stalin). Vietnam changed all that. Journalists today are the Vietnam Generation, or their children, or their grandchildren. They don't consciously lie, they practice selective attention. (Go on YouTube and type "Selective Attention" into the search bar. You will be entertained and surprised.) If a white man carries out a mass shooting, it will be be front page news, if a Black man does the same thing, you won't hear about it. They don't want to stir up racism... it's all in a good cause.
     
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    If I drive the getaway car in a bank robbery, and get caught, I'm going to argue that, hey, I didn't rob anyone ... I just gave someone a lift ... like I did last week when my nextdoor neighbor needed to go shopping.
     
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    I already knew why you acted without principle.
    My side doesn't behave that way--or the way of Democrats when they behave similarly.
     
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    Nobody has any political principles except as talking points. That is my observation.

    I am not sure what you mean by your last sentence, but the SJW's will tear anyone to pieces for the slightest faux pas. I am looking forward to see left wing journalists fed into the maw of that awful monster.
     
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    Bill Clinton was a left of center Democrat, not far left but left of center.


    Sanctuary cities may not openly suggest open borders , but that is 100% what their policies encourage.

    I think sanctuary cities should be 100% cut off from all federal funding.
    No student loans for their universities no funds for infrastructure nothing. No FEMA in a disaster nothing.
    The only thing they should get
    Are medicare and Social Security

    And they should have a tax on them to bolster border security.
     
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    People practice "selective attention" because that's the way we are. Sometimes, we even knowingly practice it by deliberately ignoring some or much of behavior we would otherwise condemn as a strategy--Democrats overlooking Bill Clinton's sleazy behavior with Monica Lewinsky, Republicans ignoring Trump's personsl behavior, Republicans ignoring the inferior healthcare for poor people, Democrats ignoring racism coming from blacks (Al Sharpton with Tawana Brawley shtick), and on and on.
    I don't know if I accept your example, but there is a tendency for liberals to downplay black crime. I don't mind liberals explaining and even excusing some of the crime, but refusing to acknowledge it is dishonest. What we do about crime, including black crime, is a complicated discussion.
     
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    What you do about crime is crack down on it, hard... inner cities need to be freed from the tyranny of gangs and drugs.
    People with money will not invest in these places when anything they build will just be destroyed by criminals.
     
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    A particularly inapt analogy. Democrats are at best described as bystanders who refuse to help authorities to enforce laws they believe are wrong.

    Me? I'm not going to turn in someone I see smoking pot. How about you?
     
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    Obama controlled the media
     
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    Trump didn't beat the tar out of anyone. He stole the election with help from a hostile foreign power. , You supporting it is very much as if you've sided with the Japanese in 1941. So yeh, I hate people who've betrayed all the people who died to keep us a sovereign nation.
     
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    I guess it isn't complicated for you :rolleyes:, but even LardButt in the White House supported sentencing reform that will reduce time served.
    High crime areas depress investment and that's part of why we shouldn't ignore crime, but as I said, "What we do about crime, including black crime, is a complicated discussion."
     
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    You mean where they ignored his question? I think he should have stopped asking questions and made a short comment that his question was not answered and left it at that. Of course, that would have been called out as rude. What's truly offensive, IMO, is the gall of Trump and his stooges to lie repeatedly to the American people.
     
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