It's The Hillary Clinton Show!

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Already posted a chart.
     
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    His quite was I dont see any reason why it would be. Doesnt seem treasonous to me.

    I already gave you examples on hillary ties with russia.
     
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    If it weren't for his utter incompetence and pettiness I'd agree with you. Other than that I see your point. He is at least better than having another establishment politician. But if someone on the left rises above the polls who is anti establishment (who knows if they will win) but that will be a show for the ages. Because the populist from the left (as shown historically) always wins. The left (actual left) more represents the views of the common folk.
     
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    For starters, Trump overturned Obama's harmful energy policies, we are now energy independent. He also got us out of agreements that would hurt us, such as TPP and the Paris scam.
     
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    The BLOTUS might be in the lockup in 2021! ;)
     
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    He was elected in a landslide with 306 Electoral Votes to Hillary's 232. He beat not only Hillary, but Obama's corrupt DOJ, the corrupt establishment and foreign operatives enlisted by the corrupt CIA to frame the Trump campaign. He beat the DNC thugs that Creamer enlisted to attack his rallies. He beat the corrupt media who afforded him 5% favorable coverage. He beat the pollsters who gave him a 2.5% chance of winning in order to affect the results. He beat Google, who violated every tenet of Federal Election Law by providing hundreds of billions of $$$'s in value as a contributions to Obama's 3rd term by skewing search results to favor socialists ,,, and using techniques they learned from China to block content that wasn't favorable to Hillary.

    2016 was a crushing blow to socialism in the USA ,,, worse than its failure everywhere it's been tried in the world.
     
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    Revenge fantasies.
     
  9. Renee

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    Remember this landslide as you call it as Trump tells you it was the largest ever when it wasn’t but his base isn’t smart enough to check....the bottom line more people, millions more, wanted hillary.
    The trouble with the polls is that they were accurate in that people said who they would vote for but because of the polls having her so far ahead millions didn’t bother to vote.
     
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    Post the clause in the constitution that says anything but the vote of the electoral college matters.

    306 - 232 is a landslide. Capitalism beat the snot out of Socialism. I recommend you study the Trump campaign, where he spent money and states he conceded. If you want the popular vote to count for anything change the Constitution. He will beat you on whichever rules set out before the campaign.

    Trump and Hillary played by the same rules that were in place before either of them were born. It's pathetic for Democrats to claim they didn't know about the rules and spouting off about irrelevant things like the popular vote after the fact.

    Just admit it. You were outsmarted by a Washington outsider because of his entrepreneurial, capitalistic mindset. Don't look now, but he's beating you in the economy as well. Free markets beat socialist central planning every time.
     
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    You throw socialism around when you don’t know what the hell it is tal. Maybe we should make all public schools private because after all it’s socialistic . Let’s have private cops and private firefighters because after all it’s too socialistic.And those roads and bridges? Let them fall apart and have private people fix them because it’s too socialistic. We are a capitalist country and that’s fine....but when most of the benefits go to the richest at the expense of the middle class , there needs to be some adjustment. That doesn’t make us a socialist country. But it’s a scary word to Trumpers. If I were you I’d worry more about becoming a fascist country with a dictator
    We certainly know the rules about the electoral college but I do have to laugh when you try To minimize that more people voted for Hillary then voted for Trump as though that doesn’t matter at all. The electoral college was fine in the 1700s but it’s really not appropriate today. But that doesn’t change anything. Trump won the electoral college but what you want to deny is millions more people wanted hillary for president...bet you believe he had the highest electoral vote?.he told you that
    You think I was outsmarted by this boob? Unless you’re very very rich he donned you and you’re thanking him. Just curious did you give Obama credit for nearly tripling the stock market and turning the economy around and preventing a recession? It’s much easier to inherit an economy that is growing every single month for years then to inherit an economy that was headed for a crash with 700,000 jobs being lost a month. By the way how’s that deficit?
     
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    You seriously need to turn off Fox News

    “Energy Independence” was achieved by Trump thru nothing more than exporting more oil than we used last year. Every administraion since Nixon in the early 70’s has agreed that achieving independence means we need to find new sources of energy, i.e. Renewables. Trump just exported more oil, that didn’t make us independent, it actually increased the threat of Global Warming.

    You should try reading seem actual science instead of listening to a politician when it comes to issues of science.
     
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    Ahhhh, the old “electoral college”. You may want to read up on the electoral college sometime. Read about how it was bastardized when every state decided to move to a “winner take all” count. Then understand this: Every person who voted for HIllary, in a state where Trump took the popular vote actually had their vote cast for Trump. And if you voted for Trump in a state carried by Hillary, your vote was cast for Hillary. Think about that for a while ;)
     
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    Energy independence was achieved by Trump through nothing more than getting the government off the backs of crude oil producers that allowed us to reduce the global funding of terrorism.

    United States Crude Oil Production
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    You should try actual facts and stop making believe you know anything about science.
     
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    Can't dispute the facts I see and resort to the typical rhetoric and deflections.
     
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    You’re right, what do the top scientists all over the world know?
     
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    they produced more so they could EXPORT more that we used.
     
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    Without sharpening your pencil, you don't really know what's going on.
    Factors:
    Oil is a fungible commodity. We can export oil where it may not be needed and import the same amount of oil where it is needed with no effect except import and export numbers.

    All US flagged tankers operate in the Pacific. The Jones Act prevents foreign flagged tankers from operating between US ports: eg., the Gulf and East Coast refineries.

    US refineries along the Gulf coast allow them to refine low grade crude from, say, Venezuela and Mexico, which they do and return petroleum products. This shows up as an import and export as well.

    We produce 12m bbls / day and consume the equivalent in product of 20m bbls / day.

    I believe the refineries along the east coast import crude from Africa and perhaps Canada ,,, but I haven't looked at it for a while.

    In short, the job of figuring out what is going on is not stuff of a political debate forum.
     
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    If the left wins one, they will abuse their power to a tipping point and the pendulum will swing back to another Trump-like candidate. Repeat. Neither side gives a damn about common folk. CA is a great example.
     
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    What do top scientists have to do with energy independence stats?
     
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    Given our democracy's dependence on an informed electorate, the example above of the belief in an alternate reality, no doubt adhered to by a majority of Trumper's, is making effective self governance nearly impossible.
     
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    Total tax revenue increased by $400B from 2016 to 2018. This isn't recorded by word of mouth or smoke signals. The feds keep and report statistics.

    In order to pay for rewarding his friends to the tune of Trillions in what he claimed was a stimulus, Obama gutted the military to the point that Xi felt that he could build militarized islands to block trade routes in international waters and Putin felt free to annex Crimea. The deficits result from Trump fixing the disaster in defense along with the cost of illegal Democrat voters invading the US from the south.
     
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    So you really know that there is more evidence but you think the Republicans aren’t investigating because after all they must be part of the conspiracy or else they just love the Clintons. I hope you are sharing all your evidence because the Republicans tried and tried and tried and couldn’t get it. But yet you’re not even curious as to why Trump is hiding his income tax returns. But you’re not even curious why Trump told people not to answer questions under investigations In those that will lie will get pardons
     
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    I'm as interested in trump's tax returns as you are interested in Clinton scandals.
     

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