It's The Hillary Clinton Show!

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Natty Bumpo, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. EyesWideOpen

    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You entire post was a waste of time. You may as well have put lipstick on a pig.

    We all know without a doubt, that Hilary Clinton is guilty of committing felony crimes over her email scandal. However just "as practiced in some sh¡thole nations" the corrupt politicians who work for the ruling political party, they are never incarcerated, never held to justice for the crimes they commit while in office.
     
  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You need to actually say something other than :blahblah::blahblah::blahblah: before I can disagree with it. But you appear to prefer ad hominem attacks.
     
  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correction....Trumpists "know" this without a doubt. But then Trumpists believe many things that are not true. Trump has packed the DOJ with sycophants and toadies. Where is the indictment?
    The truth is, the admin wants Trumpists to go on believing lies they dare not take action on because they don't want to expose the accusations as frauds.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The IG report was very clear. Hilary stored, transmitted and received classified document in a device not authorized for that purpose. That is against the law.
     
  5. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is a reason that eagles and chickens don't communicate, Atwater. If it's not cluck-cluck, the chicken does not understand, the eagle isn't going to waste time trying to explain the aerodynamics of flight to a chicken, whose capacity prevents him from ever using it.

    Besides, you disagree with everything except yourself....

    And you can't disagree with that. Not genuinely.
     
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  6. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    "We all know" is your fake claim.

    Your hyper-partisan fanaticism that exposes your contempt for the American judicial system and due process is an attack upon the Republican-controlled Congressional committees that, for years, diligently sought some pretext for an indictment and failed. Then you had two full years of your exulted p*ssy-grabber , the attorneys general he appointed, and a Republican-controlled Senate and a Republican-controlled House, none of whom could contrive a credible pretext either.

    Is it your position that all those Republicans are incompetent, corrupt, or both?

    You can screech "Lock her up!" of anyone you wish, but the American legal system is not intimidated by loud mouths who are impotent in offering evidence to justify an indictment, a trial, and a conviction.
     
  7. EyesWideOpen

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    It's not some "claim." We all know that while Hilary Clinton was SECSTATE, she used her own , unauthorized, private server, to send and receive numerous emails, which contained classified information. That is a felony.

    You can send up all the red herrings and straw dogs you like, they will not change the fact that Hilary violated the law, while SECSTATE.
     
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  8. Renee

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    Because hillary was investigated for hours and hours by people who wanted her to be guilty They couldn’t find anything. I don’t believe everything about Trump but I do believe what I see and hear when he speaks and tweets. They have documented 10,000 lies and yet you want to pretend what you see in here isn’t really true. I am sure you believe he had a large is the normal crowd. I am sure you believe he saw hundreds of people’s in New Jersey celebrating 911. These are just lies they’re pathological. I remember when they took away Obama’s phone and here we have this orange idiot tweeting and making a total fool out of himself but appealing to the base....but hillary isn’t president....at least the world respected her
     
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    Hey they believe that Hillary was running a sex ring in the basement of the pizza parlor, so why are you surprised?But she is a distraction from the real danger in the White House
     
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    hate is a terrible thing, consuming the capacity to think logically of any who embrace it.
     
  11. Natty Bumpo

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    She killed Vince Foster by dropping a 40 kilo block of lime Jello® off of a 4-story building onto his noggin, doncha know!
     
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    You need to actually say something other than :blahblah::blahblah::blahblah: before I can disagree with it.

    Speaking of chickens, you appear to be one. Otherwise, you'd be making declarative statements that don't involve explaining you don't like me.............because I keep exposing your beliefs as fraudulent.
     
  13. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Once again you hide behind :blahblah::blahblah: without even attempting factual refutation. You're kinda pathetic that way.
     
  14. spiritgide

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    You have never argued a real point in all the crap I've ever seen you post. There's nothing to refute about your Trump-hate; it's simply something you manifest and have no intention of debating. The only thing you seek is to engage people in defense of your allegations so you can further rant and rail. You seek to suck people in for that purpose- and I can't see any other.

    I see no hope for you.
     
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    And worse is hero worship believing what are provable lies and going against ones own self interest
     
  16. EyesWideOpen

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    ...and the red herrings continue to pour forth from all the Hilary protectors.

    You can distract with that kook conspiracy theory crap that no one believes. You can spew forth misinformation with all the red herrings you like, but the truth is Hilary trafficked in secret and top secret material thru her private email account server. This is a fact and is not even up for debate. Just because Obama, Comey, Lynch, and the corrupt Obama DOJ refused to prosecute her, does not make her innocent, nor erase what she did.
     
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    Adding insults and nonsense to the argument doesn't help. Spirit provided a lot of info and you refuted it by calling him a trumpster and acting like things didnt happen.
     
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    A birth certificate is required to take office tax returns are not end of story.
     
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    For the majority of conservatives- Trump is not a "hero"- he's the best man for the job at the time, and far superior to the alternatives. We are aware of his faults; you seem unaware of Hillary's. When you have to adjust the reality to support your fantasy,that is a weakness that makes it impossible for you to make an informed decision or judgment.
     
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    Why did trump say he would show his tax returns if you have nothing to hide? Imagine if Obama refuse that. Look at the hysteria when you saw his birth certificate..saying it’s fake and other despicable things. By the way, a birth certificate is not required
     
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    There you go again with your obsession with Hillary. I don’t care about Hillary but I care about a president who is destroying my country. You are the one who is denying reality. He lies pathologically and you defended just the way he said
     
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    EVERY politician you ever knew lied to you. EVERY ONE. Hillary was the alternative- not only a highly skilled liar, but an out and out crook. You should be grateful that she didn't win, because we would be far worse off today. Jesus was not on the ballot- and politics is such a dirty game, a nice guy who never lied and wasn't tough as nails would go down in round one- every time. Or... fake it and be manipulated by others behind the curtain; an equally repugnant and dangerous condition. Tough guys sometime have a tough personna. When I watch Trump, one thing I notice is that all the left-handed crap thrown at him everyday rolls off his back and he stays on course. The rough edges don't matter, so long as he gets the job done. Some people however prefer comfortable lies to uncomfortable truth. I consider them stupid people, who lie to themselves.

    The real cause of the difficulties we have politically and in general- is the low average character of our people, and that is getting worse; it has been in decline now for 40-50 years.
    People now thrive on the belief that we are entitled, we deserve, we've been cheated, somebody owes us, we are poor only because someone else is rich, and there is nothing wrong with anybody we like and everything wrong with those we don't- who can be identified by the fact they don't tell us what we want to hear. Pride in who you are and your country is being shamed by these politicians because that is a sign of strong people... and that is bad news for crooked politicians. Weak people do what they are told- and they sell their freedom to those who promise them free stuff and caretakers. A lot of them may be intelligent- but they are not wise or smart.

    Fact: What ever the political mess is- WE are the ones who made it what it is. Voters. Too many are weak people, avoiding responsibility, always looking for the easy way, never really asking themselves if they can honestly respect who they are. They are the ones who buy the BS, they are the easiest to deceive.

    Only fools blame others for their own positions and conditions, and in so doing abdicate the power to control their own lives. That INCLUDES how we vote.
    We do need someone to step up to the plate and set the examples for responsibility, integrity and justice. Unless we the people decide we want and will follow that kind of person- we will elect something less.
    We can have good politicians- if we refuse to settle for less.... but the fact is we want politicians who are con-artists and snake oil salesmen pretending to be honorable, who will give us what we want at somebody else's expense. If the character of government sucks- it's because the character of the people is low enough to elect just that.

    It's unfortunate that you can't see the complete picture and accept the facts you don't want to hear. But that is your personal part of the mess that politics is today.
     
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    Why do you dismiss Hillary, when she was the alternative to Trump?
    Trump is president because Hillary was the alternative- and enough people recognized the situation and concluded that Trump was preferable. Be grateful- things would have been much worse if they hadn't.

    Deal with it.
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...p-yet-another-example-of-stonewalling.561717/

    Real enough for ya?
     
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    Being born in the United states is required. If born in the United states you have a birth certificate.
     

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