The whistle blower story heats up. Yet another example of stonewalling.

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  1. JusticeOne

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    Shifty Schiff is at it again. LOL
     
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    Trump got permission from the Ukrainians to release the transcript.

    I feel your pain at losing the propoganda campaigns.

     
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    Not just "conservatives", we're talking about motivated reasoning and magical thinking in general. Why do people believe in the flat earth or trump, apocalyptic cults even after the world doesn't end? I don't think America will be destroyed in 2020 even if trump is elected again, but you are right that everyday he is in office, the country becomes weaker and weaker. So the question is how to get people to think critically and evaluate evidence rather than dedicate their lives to partisan ideology at all costs to country and the world? It is a very difficult question and one that has been studied quite a bit without any simple answers.
     
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    The President of Ukraine is going to make a public statement about the phone call(in about an hour). The dems do not have a patch big enough to cover the hole that , that will blow in their boat. Too bad so sad.
     
  5. Lee Atwater

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    There are so many corrupt, lawless aspects to this one event it's difficult to quantify. The acting DNI broke the law, the IC IG (at the direction of the DOJ) broke the law, Individual 1 broke the law, Giuliani never should have been used as a representative of our government, the WH has no right or authority to control the whistleblower complaint or his testimony to Congress, the State Dept. (no doubt at Trump's direction) should never have approached Giuliani to speak with Ukrainian officials, and those are just the ones I can think of right now.
    From the beginning it puts on full display the level of corruption every aspect of this admin is perpetrating in violation of the law.
     
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    There's a reason why it's called snail mail.
     
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    The whistleblower did not have first hand knowledge of the phone call, right now we have more knowledge about the phone call than the whistleblower did at the time of his/her complaint,
     
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    Presidents in the past HAVE used "friends" or "experts" outside of government to convey messages, obtain intelligence, etc. from foreign leaders, but never using them for personal political purposes as overtly as this appears. If the President had a reasonable suspicion of illegal acts committed by Biden and/or his son, he could have called his AG and asked him to look into it. In fact, he told the Ukrainian President that's what he would do. Barr just said that the transcript released this morning is the first he's heard of the issue.
     
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    Hillary, the FBI, and several other people did.
     
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    GPS Fusion hired Steele. Steele was a private consultant, not a "foreign leader." The FBI is an agency of the U.S. government and was pursuing an investigation into potential illegal contacts between members of the Trump campaign and the Russian government.
     
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    Tis great music.
     
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    DId you have some point to make?
     
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    And Hillary paid them all. You are forgetting the FBI acquiring FISA warrants with falsified documents. Comey giving classified FBI documents to his buddy to leak to the press. Just to name a few.
     
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    None except it would be nice to have such fine music to go down like good puddin by. You are fortunate.
     
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    What "falsified documents?" Carter Page's trips to Moscow? The FISA warrant went nowhere...Page was never indicted. The Steele dossier merely confirmed other information our intelligence agencies had on Page.
    Comey's "classified FBI documents" were only "Memo's for Record," which Comey had written himself on his meetings with Trump. Maybe they could be classified as "For Official Use Only," but nothing more, unless you believe ALL private conversations with the President are "classified."
     
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    Excuses made like a true dem. The IG said comey broke the law doing what he did, it's becoming obvious that as long as it helps dems you guys will never admit to anything.
     
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    IOW, "don't bother me with facts."
     
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    Typical response from the left.
     
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    What will Congress Do to Trump?

    Drudge Poll

    https://poll.fm/10416595

    Ok, before some of y'all get hot & bothered by the 'targeted X section' here - this is just for fun. Obviously Drudge attracts a Con. leaning readership... As of this Am, we all certainly have a greater basis of information upon which to draw. :)
     
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  20. JusticeOne

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    My prediction is by the end of next week Pelosi and company will look like village idiots, to us that can accept facts as they are they already do.
     
  21. Lee Atwater

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    Justice One's trolling makes him a candidate for the ignore function. I must have around 10 Trumpette's on ignore by now after trying in vain to get them to respond to posts in a factual manner rather than reflexive idiocy.
     
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    Very interesting poll.
     
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    Yup that's what the left does when they are out of gas.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The count for House Dems in support of impeachment has risen to 213, 5 short of the threshold. The number was down around 150 not too long ago so clearly the latest impeachable offense has pushed many of the moderates over the edge.
     
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    So...why do you think the $400 million in aid to Ukraine was held up?
     

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