Joe Biden's son Hunter 'did not violate anything', says former Ukraine prosecutor

At Heart of Trump Scandal (title cont'd)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...complaint-a9121876.html?utm_source=reddit.com

This quote came from an interview which took place after a whistleblower complaint revealed that Trump sought the assistance from the President of Ukraine against Trump's domestic political rival while he simultaneously and unilaterally withheld hundreds of millions in military aid.

I found this quote from the Reddit thread on this topic and I think I will blast it to every single person who continues to trot out the thooooourrrrrrrrroooouuugggghhhhhllllllyyyyyy debunked claims that Biden did anything wrong.

 

Fake Don and Consigliere Giuliani rant hysterically about some Biden impropriety, but have yet to offer a shred of evidence to support their attempt at diversion.

If any of Trump's bum kissers can offer any information to prop up Fake's and his consigliere's baseless ravings, it will not impact Fake's blatant attempt to pervert US foreign policy to extract a "favor" from a foreign leader to serve his personal, political agenda, but it would impart a modicum of credibility to the degenerate duo.

 

But But But.... Trump and Rudy said Bidens need to be investigated... Why would we believe anything the person who knows if they need to be investigated said??

The lack of logical thinking cracks me up...

My take on the Bidens is that Hunter probably shouldn't have had that job while Dad was VP.... It was reported to both as a possible conflict of interest concern when he took the job but they disregarded that, and this is the eventual price to be paid.

I cannot see anything Biden Sr. did wrong here.. it was the stated policy of the US and European Union that the previous prosecutor needed to go, and Sr. was in a unique position to make it happen. End of Story.

The fact that you are still opening threads on this and I'm responding tells me that the idiots are winning and we are losing.. Need to stay focused on your EXCELLENT statement from the other thread...

SNIP from MrTLegal
Trump sought the assistance of a foreign leader to investigate Trump's domestic political rival while he simultaneously and unilaterally withheld hundreds of million in military aid from that country.
ENDSNIP

I'm giving you credit for that... if you cribbed it, let me know...

 

The question is did Trump actually believe the conspiracy theory about Biden or was it simply politically expeditious to push it? In either event it blew up in his face.

This is what happens when you elect a birther.

 

Trump = A DISGRACE to America and the Office of the Presidency.

^The Tinfoil Hat LUNATIC who brought Unfounded RW Fever Swamp Conspiracies into the "Mainstream".

Obviously, there is NOTHING to this "Biden Stuff".

^Everybody KNOWS it, and it has been Debunked 1000x Over.

 

I will tell you what Hunter Biden's crime is. He is the serviving son of Frm.Vice. president Joe Biden. Joe has a fifty fifty chance of getting the Demo critic nomination for WANNABE POTUS. Joe will be running against Trump. Trump likes to attack any and all challengers, their children, their wives, their mistresses, their supporters, their friends dead or alive.

And Hunter made a lot of money but there is no evidence that Hunter find anything wrong but Trump does not care.

It is accuse, attack, lie, accuse, attack, repeat step # 3 100,000 times.

 

Its mine and it is a reason why I think this issue has some real staying power. It is very easy to summarize the facts in a manner that is nearly undeniable, but is also really simple.

 

But I was told that Biden wanted the prosecutor out because the prosecutor was corrupt. Specifically because he wasn't investigating the corruption of the company that Biden's son was getting paid by.

There was a wiki page and everything.

Why did Biden want the guy gone, and what were the details of the accused corruption?

 

Hunter joined the board in 2014, the with holding you are referring to happened in 2016, and Shokin was fired for NOT investigating the company for potential money laundering. So again, I'm asking you, what's the point you are trying to make? That Biden ensured we didn't support a nation that WASN'T rooting our corruption...??

So after Shokin was fired, what did Biden do to ensure the investigation actually took place?

Was it nothing?

I bet it was nothing.

 

EVERYBODY wanted the guy gone.... EVERY-BODY...

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But there is a long list of Western organizations, governments, and diplomats, as well as Ukrainian anti-corruption groups, that wanted to see Shokin fired.

They include the International Monetary Fund, the European Union, the U.S. government, foreign investors, and Ukrainian advocates of reform.
ENDSNIP

https://www.rferl.org/a/why-was-ukraine-top-prosecutor-fired-viktor-shokin/30181445.html

Read the whole article for a summary of the entire thing...

Biden was just in the right time at the right place with the right offer... Nobody serious takes this seriously...

 

And our attorney general plus many other top American officials told us Trump didn't break any laws and didn't collude with anyone, yet here we are with the democrats yapping about impeachment yet again.

 

Wait...you are asking what Biden did to ensure an investigation, one closed two years before he got the Ukrainian Prosecutor fired for unrelated reasons, was reopened?

 

So it is your belief that he was fired for not investigating Burisma. What investigation of Burisma took place after he was fired for not investigating them, and what was the conclusion?

 

If it was closed, why do your sources keep saying he was fired for not investigating it?

 

... Nazar Kholodnitskiy, the head of the Specialized Anti-Corruption Prosecutor's Office, said... the case has remained on hold and no investigative actions have been taken since then.

He emphasized that there was no mention of Biden or his son in the Burisma case, which was focused broadly to look into the alleged abuse of power by officials in Ukraine's Ministry of Ecology.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraines-prosecutor-says-no-probe-into-biden/ar-AAHVIqa​

 

No, he was reportedly fired because he was "causing great damage even to Ukraine's substandard legal system."... I don't believe anybody can link it to a single case

Regarding other investigations on this company or it's owner, I don't really know, I don't really care, and if you are an American, you shouldn't either.....

This is a Ukrainian company incorporated under Ukrainian law not suspected of impacting America's interests..... If Ukrainians want to investigate it ON THEIR OWN, they are free to do so..

It's generally none of America's business.... and they don't need us telling them to reopen their old cases in order to get their approved military aid....

You are being gaslighted, my friend...

 

Now I'm not supposed to care that he was corrupt?

Strange.

Wish you'd get the story straight. Maybe then I could figure out who's gas lighting me.

 

Is CNN carrying this? If not, then even the fake news Trump hating network doesn’t believe it.

 

Lol you think you need the AGs approval to impeach? The executive branch doesn’t get to clear itself.

 

It is also worth pointing out that Lutsenko isn't exactly some sort of shill for the Democrats. In fact, he has a history of working with Trump's people.

This article went to print before the impeachment was announced.

Unfortunately this is behind a pay wall.

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2019/09/21/rudy-giulianis-ukrainian-adventure

 

Here's your argument so far.

Biden forced Shoken's resignation because Shoken was allowing corruption to take place by failing to investigate and prosecute corruption.

Americans shouldn't care about corruption in other nations, so there was no need for the new guy to investigate the corruption that Shokin didn't investigate.

Should I make one of those a or b button guy memes?

 

One of the most evil people in the USA, Congressman Ted Lieu, finds that all Biden's kid did was take a job and receive pay. Nothing corrupt here. So, there's that.

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story

Why did Burisma want Biden's son on their board? He some kind of Ukrainian gas genius?

 

So you don't believe Trump's own words.

 

I thought you couldnt believe them guys ?