Why did Christian women stop covering their head?

Yet, I and others have studied and became believers after being agnostic. You are an example of what Paul told Timothy....having a form of Godliness, but denying the power of God. I was an agnostic. I was filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues, I felt the power of God go through me like electricity and the Scriptures jumped off the page and I had clarity. Nothing you or anyone can say will change my mind.

 

After saying that you believe Isaiah and Hosea, you can't possibly have "clarity".

 

Ive had enough of your trolling. Bye.

 

If you believe Isaiah and Hosea, (I do) you can't believe Matthew regardless of the electricity and talking in tongues.

 

I agree with Margot. I question your 'clarity'. You've been shown the real truth of some Biblical passages, and many Christians would agree with what we have pointed out. I probably know more about the subject of speaking in tongues than you do, having spent some time involved with a Pentecostal movement. You do realise that speaking in tongues is not limited to the Christian religion but is manifest in pagan religions too. . I've known people who were not Christians, but attended church, who 'spoke in tongues'
I saw a Pentecostal Church split down the middle because 2 of its respected Christian members had been 'given' prophecies about where the church should go forward. Unfortunately the prophecies did not agree.

You are perfectly at liberty to believe what you will. It doesn't mean you are right. An earnest study of scriptures and the background on which the Bible was written is needed by yourself.

 

The real truth is Jesus. Real Christian's believe that the Bible is the Word of God. I've seen churches split. I've seen false prophets. Jesus told us these things would happen, so these things only confirm the Scriptures. I believe that you and Margot are wolves in sheep's clothing that Jesus warned us about. It's that simple. My faith is in Jesus. If I'm wrong, I've lost nothing. If you're wrong, you've lost everything.

 

Do you even have a clue as to the history of the Protestant Bible?

 

Actually, you've lost a lifetime spent worshipping a non-existent being when you could have been doing things to actually help humanity, .

Incidentally, there's no proof that Jesus actually spoke the words in the Gospels. They were written decades after his death by mostly unknown writers. And if Jesus actually spoke about false prophets he was referring to Jeremiah's condemnation of those who claim to be prophets of Jahweh, but are not. Neither Margot or I claim to be prophets of God.

Jesus was speaking to the Jews and only the Jews. The reason is quite simple. In his day there were men who claimed to be the Messiah and persuaded others to join them and fight the Romans. They inevitably lost, but caused the Romans a lot of trouble. It was one of these 'false prophets' that eventually led to Israel's dispersal in CE130-135.
Anyway, as I said, you are entitled to believe as you will. But please don't keep quoting things that are not proven or true. If you do, then expect a reply.

 

Prove it.

 

Mormons have special underwear.... it's just to make groups feel like a us vs them

 

Cause this loving god punishes people for eternity that do not love and worship him? Sounds like what Trump would be if he was a God... who wants a petty jealous God with such a fragile ego

how about we just push god in the deist context as the framers intended, not a jealous and vengeful god as some are trying to push now?

http://thefreedictionary.com/deist

"de·ism (dzm, d-)
n.
The belief, based solely on reason, in a God who created the universe and then abandoned it, assuming no control over life, exerting no influence on natural phenomena, and giving no supernatural revelation."

 

So you don't believe in God, Jesus or the Bible, yet you want to tell me what the Bible really means. LOL. you're a funny one.

 

I'm not pushing religion. I'm referring to your soul.

 

" In his day there were men who claimed to be the Messiah and persuaded others to join them and fight the Romans. They inevitably lost, but caused the Romans a lot of trouble. It was one of these 'false prophets' that eventually led to Israel's dispersal in CE130-135. "

The messiah failed to vanquish their enemies...…...

 

The problem is fundamental. The expected messiah was to be an anointed warrior king who vanquished the enemies of the Jews. Jesus didn't do that.

 

I've defended the authority of Scripture. I'm pretty sure I'm in the correct forum. No one is forcing you to participate here.

 

You're free to do whatever you want. Who's stopping you?

 

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My granddaughter was playing volleyball in the gym which was really hot. One of the players mother walks and covered from head to toe and the fathers wearing shorts and a T-shirt. So sexist but that’s her choice and I have to respect that

 

That’s choice and that’s fine....it’s when women must wear costumes that inhibit them, I have the problem

 

I believe that Jesus was simply a Jewish Evangelist - not divine. He believed what he had been taught from the age of 5 - 13 - Judaism. Like many Christian like yourself you are indoctrinated with what Christian teachers want you to believe - and you never question or study beyond that. In fact, you are just the same as JW's. They are told what to believe. Beyond that they have no idea. If you have studied the Bible, Mesopotamian History and culture, Judaism and asscoiated religions etc Most of it is reasonably easy to understand. It's only when you add Christian Theology to it that you run into difficulties. It is in opposition Judaism. (See below) If you want to know what Jesus was talking about you need to know the OT and Judaism. When Jesus was talking about false Messiahs he was using Jeremiah. It's there for you to see. There were false prophets/messiahs in Jesus time. It's in Roman and Jewish History. Even Paul was asked if he was one of those troublemakers who had stirred up the people sometime before. It was a false Messiah that caused the Romans to destroy Jerusalem and finally destroy the Jewish nation. Jesus was a Jew. Apart from a few words put in Jesus mouth by the Gospels writers long after his death - he preached Judaism.

1.
Sh'ma Yisra'eil Adonai Eloheinu Adonai echad.
Hear, Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One. God Has no son. The Trinity was a late and disputed Christian addition.
2, See above. As a Jew Jesus would never have said 'I am THE Son of God'. That would have immediately have put him at odds even with the people as a blasphemer. . As a Jew he was A son of God according to the OT, as were all the Jews.
3. Jesus would never have told Mary that he was going to lay his life down as atonement for Israel's sins. Vicarious sacrifices were against Jewish beliefs.
4. Original Sin was not known until over a century after Jesus death. The Jews do not believe it. A man is responsible for sins committed after his birth.
5. Jesus took part in Jewish rittual. Matthew uses Isaiah to make him the 'promised one'. But that does not fit in with the rest of Isaiah, which is all about Israel and from Isaiah 53 foretells the Jewish 'Revelation'.
6. Jesus' own disciples didn't view Isaiah 53 as a messianic prophecy. For example, after Peter identifies Jesus as the Messiah (Matt. 16:16), he is informed that Jesus will be killed (Matt. 16:21). His response: "God forbid it, lord! This shall never happen to you" (Matt. 16:22). . Even Jesus didn't see Isaiah 53 as crucial to his messianic claims - why else did he call the Jews children of the devil for not believing in him before the alleged resurrection (Jn. 8:39-47)? And why did he later request that God "remove this cup from me" (Mk. 14:36) - didn't he know that a "removal of the cup" would violate the gentile understanding of Isaiah 53?
7. In the Garden of Gethsemane the disciples were prepared to fight for Jesus. The expectation of a Messiah was a man of strength , human leader to tyake them into Battle. When Jesus told them that was not his way - They fled.