Why did Christian women stop covering their head?

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  1. Margot2

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    Dearborn Mi Demographics
    According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Dearborn Mi was:

    • White: 90.48%
    • Black or African American: 3.80%
    • Two or more races: 3.13%
    • Asian: 2.06%
    • Other race: 0.38%
    • Native American: 0.12%
    • Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.03%
    http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/dearborn-mi-population/


    1. Dearborn, Michigan Religion - bestplaces.net
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      Religion. RELIGION OVERVIEW 42.16% of the people in Dearborn, Michigan are religious, meaning they affiliate with a religion.

    2. 16.83% are Catholic; 0.34% are LDS; 6.51% are another Christian faith; 0.01% in Dearborn, Michigan are Jewish; 0.26% are an eastern faith; 3.62% affilitates with Islam.

     
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    Prophecy in the Bible is either written at, or close, to the time. Or written as history.

    Daniel. in the lions dens is merely a legendary story.
    In a Neo-Assyrian letter from an ousted court official named Urad-Gula to King Ashurbanipal, Urad-Gula asks for financial assistance and, in the course of this request, describes the royal court metaphorically as a den or pit of lions. As with our contemporary use, then, this ancient letter employs the lions’ den as a metaphor for mean colleagues or wicked competitors.
    ‘Daniel’ didn’t exist. The story is full of inaccuracies for the background on which it is written. It’s probably based on an earlier hero.
    The 'prophecies' in Daniel are a record of the Maccabean Period - written at the time.
    Jonah was probably based on the Babylonian god Oannes. Half man, half fish who would appear in the sea round
    The prophecies of the writers of Isaiah were simply the acute understanding of men who looked at what was happening and saw the end result of each action, When Israel joined with other nations to oppose Assyria Isaiah could see the result, and warned of it. Again with Judah and their pact with Egypt against the Babylonians. It's not prophecy. It's commonsense and the ability to assess situations.
    If you're British you will know that we had 2 'prophets' in the last century. in the 1930's Churchill assessed the situation with Germany and warned the British people of what was going to happen. We also had a Politician who gave a speech in Parliament. He was ostracised because of it, but it is happening.
    Most prophecy is simply someone being able to see the outcome of a series of actions.
    Most of us are 'prophets'. How many times people have come and told me what they intend to do over a matter. I've been able to give advice, yes or no, by seeing problems they have not thought about. As you get older your experience of life comes in handy.
     
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    Agreed. Folks concerned about Theocracy do seem preoccupied with Christianity (which to my knowledge is codified into law in zero countries) while Islam is promising to dominate the world, and already holds 'Head of State' in much of Asia and Africa.

    Thats no reason to overgeneralize the subject tho ;)
     
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    Mularkey.
     
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    The theme of this thread, I believe, overlooks one of the fundamental teachings of Christianity. The subject of dress, is largely cultural, perhaps influenced by the spiritual.
    Thing of importance: The Apostle Paul said "Standfast therefore in the liberty, wherewith Christ has set us free, but be not entangled again in the yoke of bondage. For brethren we have been called unto liberty therefore use not liberty as an occasion to serve the flesh, but by love, serve one another."
    That is a mouthful. Those that do not want to look introspectively at it.....will not get it.
     
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    Im not familiar with that passage, and I think it might just be one of the greatest things I've ever heard. What book/verse is it?

    Edit: Galations 5, right?
     
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    Perhaps you should study the Bible along with some history.
     
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    Galatians 5:1 It is a scripture I learned in song years ago. That is what true "liberty" is about. There is so much to the Word of God that is so revealing.
     
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    GALATIANS 5:1 KJV
     
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    I learned a lot of stuff in KJV but NIV and NAS are fine also. Sometimes I paraphrase a little.
     
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    Covering one's body isn't an absolute requirement in Christianity.

    There were some native women who went around topless in the Pacific Islands who were Christian, because that was part of their culture. (Today however there are very few native women who go around topless, almost none, so practically that's a thing of the past)

    "Modesty" can be expressed in different ways, and sometimes in different cultural contexts.
     
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    It's Mularkey only to the ignorant. As Margot says, try studying outside the Bible, you might learn something.The Bible is a book/scrolls written between 2500-1900 years ago. With all our understanding and knowledge 2000 years later, and with archaeology, science, history etc we need to see the Bible against the background of the time.

    . A simple example..A Noah's flood that covered the mountains - story written around 600BCE - is impossible. And if you read the Bible carefully, it contradicts the idea with the description of the basic Hydrological cycle. But people of the time did not fully understand There's not enough water/ice etc on earth for the event to occur. 8 people to populate the new earth?
    Now we do.
     
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    We are fortunate to have the Dead Sea scrolls, the Nag Hammadi library, the Ugaritic tablets and the Dilmun tablets as well as men like Samuel Noah Kramer.
     
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    Margot and you can believe whatever you wish. I choose to believe that the Bible is the living Word of God. When it was written means nothing because God's Word is eternal. Carry on...….. Read this when you have some time.
    https://creation.com/the-bible-and-the-hydrologic-cycle
     
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    Bahrain (ancient Dilmun) has many, many fresh water springs. In fact, in the Persian Gulf on the coast of Eastern Saudi Arabia there are fresh water spring bubbling up thru salt water... and they have been there for thousands of years.

    You see the Persian Gulf used to be a river .. and over time the Arabian Peninsula has tipped Eastward (and still is) Underground water (fossil water) travels west to East across the peninsula.

    Noah's story was based on a local flood in 2900 BC in the Euphrates River Basin.. Fertile crescents often flood their river banks.. That's why they are fertile. Consider the Nile Delta as well.
     
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    Read it before.

    When it was written means nothing because God's Word is eternal.

    Well, you may be living in the ancient times.The rest of the world has moved forward. I really wouldn't want to live in the OT days.
     
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    Wrong. Since God's Word is eternal and God lives outside of time, I'm always in the present with God.
     
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    Just to let you know, Margot appears to be a muslim apologist in other threads.
     
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    Correct.
     
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    We didn't 'throw it out the window', it was intended for the OT theocracy of Israel, which doesn't exist anymore. See Galatians.

    There is a verse in the NT about women covering their heads, but a good argument can be made it was cultural, and not normative for all Christians.

    Why do Muslim women do that?
     
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    Do you like how they beat their wives in Arabia, just like the 'prophet' did?
     

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