President Donald Trump is an 'idiot' — says Florida middle school teacher

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"Trump is an idiot" is a demonstrable fact. [/quote]

Besides Trump's insane ramblings, his own Sec. State called him an "f-ing moron" at a staff meeting. I think you're being willfully obtuse.

 

If you are going to quote the President, please provide a reference for the quote. That is if you want to be taken seriously.

 

Besides Trump's insane ramblings, his own Sec. State called him an "f-ing moron" at a staff meeting. I think you're being willfully obtuse.[/QUOTE]

I don't think you understand the actual argument being made here. I've said elsewhere that I don't think he's qualified to be president; I've said that the only reason he IS prez is because the Cellulite Goddess is even worse than he is. I think you can accurately deduce my feelings for Trump from that. But I'm not arguing whether Trump is qualified or not; I'm arguing that a teacher making a judgement call on Trump (and possibly any other human being out there) with the intent of changing the minds of their charges is wrong - and if you don't see that then you're the one being willfully obtuse here.

The issue is: Are we indoctrinating our students with our feelings. The issue is TELLING the students what to think about Trump. The issue is abusing our positions of authority by passing off our own feelings about Trump as some kind of belief to pass on to our kids when it is their OWN responsibility to form their own opinions on politics - and religion, for that matter - and not ours. Despite my antipathy towards Trump, I could actually come up with many reasons why he's been good FOR the country and what he's done that Hilla likely would NOT have that has been good for the US. Although I wouldn't prefer to, I could actually argue both sides of whether Trump is good or bad for the country, and offering the kids a choice as to which they agree with. I wouldn't want to do it, but it would easily be far better than sticking with "Trump is an idiot" because I could present both sides and let the kids form their own conclusions - something I was fairly sure was the point of educating. But "Orange Man Bad" and that's it? No other viewpoint? NOW you're indoctrinating.

We do NOT, as teachers, allow our own feelings to enter our lessons and we don't steer the kids thoughts and feelings towards one politician or another. We're supposed to be professionals. We're supposed to have higher standards than that.

I didn't like Clinton. I really didn't like W. I left the GOP because or W. But I never spoke good OR ill of either. It wasn't my place as a teacher to do so then, and it isn't my place as a teacher to speak good or ill of Trump now.

 

The Polynesians were in America reliably (DNA evidence in Amazonians and sweet potatoes in the Pacific before the europeans got there). Also possible Africans got there 1st as well as Mali sent a fleet and the Portuguese noted black natives when they made 1st contact. So no, he doesn't even get credit for that.

 

The fact there is black natives doesn't mean anything, there is people with similar traits without having common ancestry. For instance, it has been shown that melanesian have blond hairs but it's a specific mutation and it's not related to the european blonde genre. A similar phenotype doesn't imply the same genotype. I don't say it's impossible that Malian did a travel there, but a dark skin doesn't mean to be related to african people. Another example of that would be the
I already mentionned that he was not the first there, as we have the absolute archeological proof that vikings were in north africa. If I remember well, it's extremly likely that some chinese navigators set the foot on southern america. The fact that polynesian and native american had some contacts is known as well as the people of the easter islands had two roots : one coming from peru/chile, and it has been shown by genetic.

For sure, Columbus is not the first human to have set the foot on the americas, neither the first non-native american to have did that, not even the first european as vikings did it first, yet his travel would open durable water roads between the old world and the "new" world. That's the difference between C.Columbus and the vikings, the chinese, the polynesians and maybe the malians. That doesn't make me someone morally better, he is not maybe really the "first", but it's impossible to deny seriously the impact of his travels on history, the way most of the world population conceived the world and so on.

 

I don't think you understand the actual argument being made here. I've said elsewhere that I don't think he's qualified to be president; I've said that the only reason he IS prez is because the Cellulite Goddess is even worse than he is. I think you can accurately deduce my feelings for Trump from that. But I'm not arguing whether Trump is qualified or not; I'm arguing that a teacher making a judgement call on Trump (and possibly any other human being out there) with the intent of changing the minds of their charges is wrong - and if you don't see that then you're the one being willfully obtuse here.

The issue is: Are we indoctrinating our students with our feelings. The issue is TELLING the students what to think about Trump. The issue is abusing our positions of authority by passing off our own feelings about Trump as some kind of belief to pass on to our kids when it is their OWN responsibility to form their own opinions on politics - and religion, for that matter - and not ours. Despite my antipathy towards Trump, I could actually come up with many reasons why he's been good FOR the country and what he's done that Hilla likely would NOT have that has been good for the US. Although I wouldn't prefer to, I could actually argue both sides of whether Trump is good or bad for the country, and offering the kids a choice as to which they agree with. I wouldn't want to do it, but it would easily be far better than sticking with "Trump is an idiot" because I could present both sides and let the kids form their own conclusions - something I was fairly sure was the point of educating. But "Orange Man Bad" and that's it? No other viewpoint? NOW you're indoctrinating.

We do NOT, as teachers, allow our own feelings to enter our lessons and we don't steer the kids thoughts and feelings towards one politician or another. We're supposed to be professionals. We're supposed to have higher standards than that.

I didn't like Clinton. I really didn't like W. I left the GOP because or W. But I never spoke good OR ill of either. It wasn't my place as a teacher to do so then, and it isn't my place as a teacher to speak good or ill of Trump now.[/QUOTE]

Dictionary

id·i·ot
/ˈidēət/
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noun

1. INFORMAL
   a stupid person.

Again, this is not opinion, this is demonstrable fact. Trump is a stupid person. He's proven it countless ways. Pointing this out to students isn't "indoctrination" anymore than pointing out Trump's age. Both facts can be easily verified.

They can draw their own conclusions about what kind of political party would continue to support someone like Trump.

 

My fav is the lil boy on the far right, he is like "WTF, I ain't buying in to this bullshit"

 

Dictionary

id·i·ot
/ˈidēət/
Learn to pronounce
noun

1. INFORMAL
   a stupid person.

Again, this is not opinion, this is demonstrable fact. Trump is a stupid person. He's proven it countless ways. Pointing this out to students isn't "indoctrination" anymore than pointing out Trump's age. Both facts can be easily verified.

They can draw their own conclusions about what kind of political party would continue to support someone like Trump.[/QUOTE]

It's been my life's experience that most people when confronted with a different idea or procedure for doing thing are considered "Stupid" by the person without the position to have their way.. I myself am guilty of doing the same thing many times in the work place when forced to make changes to procedures I had become accustom to.. Sometimes I was right, sometimes I was wrong but I always gave the person of authority ideas a chance..

 

Dictionary

id·i·ot
/ˈidēət/
Learn to pronounce
noun

1. INFORMAL
   a stupid person.

Again, this is not opinion, this is demonstrable fact. Trump is a stupid person. He's proven it countless ways. Pointing this out to students isn't "indoctrination" anymore than pointing out Trump's age. Both facts can be easily verified.

They can draw their own conclusions about what kind of political party would continue to support someone like Trump.[/QUOTE]

So according to you, a man with no political experience who beat many establishment candidates to get the Republican nomination and then beat Mrs. Bill Clinton in the Presidential election is an idiot?

How do your life achievements compare to those of Trump?

 

You don't know where they are with your "put a square peg into a circular"... they should be done with that at age 2! They can read and write... and even if you remove that idiot part... it's political question with also historic figures in it. They are probably asking this at a kid age 10 or up.

 

It's been my life's experience that most people when confronted with a different idea or procedure for doing thing are considered "Stupid" by the person without the position to have their way.. I myself am guilty of doing the same thing many times in the work place when forced to make changes to procedures I had become accustom to.. Sometimes I was right, sometimes I was wrong but I always gave the person of authority ideas a chance..[/QUOTE]

Format your post. This is a hot mess.

 

I dunno? Post #184 is good on my side..

Pretty much what you have quoted here? Ahh you have duplicate end quotes in your reply, LMAO.. Learn HTML would be a good start

Added the correct sequence LMAO, you're welcome

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No, you screwed it up when you posted this:

"Dictionary

id·i·ot
/ˈidēət/
Learn to pronounce
noun

1. INFORMAL
   a stupid person.

Again, this is not opinion, this is demonstrable fact. Trump is a stupid person. He's proven it countless ways. Pointing this out to students isn't "indoctrination" anymore than pointing out Trump's age. Both facts can be easily verified.

They can draw their own conclusions about what kind of political party would continue to support someone like Trump.[/QUOTE]"

You forgot to put "QUOTE" in front of your comment. But by the time I pointed it out, the edit feature wouldn't have worked anyway, so whatever.

 

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You forgot to put "QUOTE" in front of your comment. But by the time I pointed it out, the edit feature wouldn't have worked anyway, so whatever.[/QUOTE]
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OMG YOU DID IT TO THIS POST TOO lmfao!!! You have conflicting end quotes after bolded someone like Trump and then after "So whatever"

So glad you came back! Now look at JET3534 post #185 the same thing happened to him You have a conflicting end quote after "teacher to speak good or ill of Trump now." and then another after

"They can draw their own conclusions about what kind of political party would continue to support someone like Trump." you can clearly see the mistake LMAO

Just go to your post #182 and reply and then see the conflicting end quote then come back and apologize

 

Butterball, this is a direct quote of yours:

"They can draw their own conclusions about what kind of political party would continue to support someone like Trump.[/QUOTE]""

I've highlighted the problem. "Quotes" work in pairs. You have 19,000 messages. You should know this.