The Latest: House won't vote to formalize impeachment probe

Nope...we do not get CNN (or Fox) here.......well I should sharpen that up......I don't have it here. Ya see that's what makes me far more neutral than you seem to be.

 

WOW! You should charge them for being a repeater.

 

Nope.....I am just an independent observer from Australia, and I have never made it any secret that I absolutely detest Trump as a human being. He is a personal grub.

 

No it is not, but it has to do the work of one, if law enforcement agencies cannot or will not because their boss is corrupt. When The House investigates, it is under no more duty to vote on whether to authorize an investigation than anyone else ever is. That is why the House rules do not require it.

Nothing more stupid than voting on whether to investigate a possible crime, when the results of the investigation must come to a vote anyway. If your republican friends don't like what comes out, they can vote against the articles when they show up on the floor.

You guys are so scared of this process and the witnesses, and the evidence. . Must mean its a lot more effective than you hoped.

 

To bridge the separation of powers, which is much more serious, yes, if they want the power of penalty and the use of the courts, they need to do it properly, not this 'any committee' investigating and sending out strongly worded letters.

 

Precedent is also important and this has never been done without a vote to start impeachment proceedings, which, BTW, is the product of the Judiciary Committee, not just this secret any committee crap.

 

You state everything here as fact and yet in your same statements you "wonder" where Assaunge got the emails and suggest that it was Trump that gave Assaunge those emails. That's called an opinion. There is no evidence that Trump got emails from the Russians and then gave them to Assaunge.

 

Putting the word "no" in all caps does little to refute the fact that the articles of impeachment will include obstruction of justice and specifically in relation to his obstruction of justice of the investigation into his abuse of power on Ukraine.

The other Obstruction of Justice charges, the ones he committed during the Mueller probe, those will come in the criminal proceeding the comes after he leaves office.

 

The founding fathers left Congress the authority to set their own rules for how to conduct their impeachment inquiry.

You are free to tell at the sky about fairness, but Nixon did not have the right wing media defending his every decision and Clinton subjected himself to a sworn and televised questioning while Trump has ordered every administration official to keep their mouth shut.

At the end of the day, the American people overwhelmingly agree that trump has been treated more fairly during this inquiry than either Clinton or Trump.

 

Thanks for the opinion.

The majority of Americans disagree.

 

When Obumble was President the economy was a stagnant malaise. I started with my current employer in 2011, I received raises of about $0.10 to $0.25 per year. In 2017 after Trump got elected my first raise was $1.50, $1.00 in 2018 and $1.00 coming in 2019. His tax cuts and economic policies made that possible, I could care less what a grub he is personally he's not my hero. All he has to do is get the economic job done.

 

Hardly neutral, more like jealous.



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It's easy to see why you hate Trump so much. However your anger is misplaced. You should be angry at Morrison and your Parliament, your economy is in the crapper. So what would you rather have, a robust personal economy with a jerk for a leader or a statesman and not progressing at all personally and have a stately leader?

 

Then why not formalize the vote so the Republicans get the chance to cross examine your witnesses? Because given the chance the Democrats would turn this country into a 3rd world nation with secret tribunals with anonymous accusers being given free reign to smear someone else with no defense. But by all means carry on, the voters will see the Democrats for who they are.

 

Nothing in your post is true

 

Bullcrap, All "newz" outlets are available worldwide over Al Gores invention.

 

Republicans are free to "cross examine" the witnesses right now. And they have.

The power they are seeking is the authority to issue their own subpoenas and voting on an official inquiry vote would not grant them that power either.

 

Interesting that the Trump administration argued that Impeachment Precedent should be upheld in their letter to Congress (where Precedent is not binding) and that Impeachment Precedent should be ignored in their arguments before the Courts (where Precedent is binding).

 

I was referring to the Whistleblower. here's why they won't..........

It's easy to see why they won't bring him/her forward.

 

Because they never planned on impeaching Trump, just smearing him enough in a pathetic attempt to win in 2020. Under Obama my raises at work were in the $0.10 to $0.25 an hour range. In 2017 I got $1.50, $1.00 in 2018 and they just announced a $1.00 raise at the end of 2019. They should resign themselves to 4 more years and another SCOTUS picks for Trump and commence with the peoples business. This do nothing Democrat House are fixated on smearing Trump any way they can. What have they done about Border Security and immigrant detentions? Those topics just get swept out like yesterdays rubbish as they move on to some fresher topic to try to smear Trump with. It's easy to tell it's just all Bull Crap or the House would have voted to impeach him by now. They'll need to explain why not to their left wing base soon or lose their interest in voting for them come next November.

 

No its a fact there is no high crime or misdemeanor. Biden himself said if elected he would go after corruption.

 

And Congress set the precedent a formal vote by the entire House to start an impeachment. Yes there were right wing media defending Nixon and Clinton was before a grand jury.

 

There is no JUDICIAL investigation into his Ukraine letter there is nothing to investigate.

 

"It's a fact."

Riiiiiight.

 

Interesting that Trump administration argued that precedent must be followed in their letter to Congress (where Precedent is not binding) and simultaneously argued that precedent should be ignored in their arguments before the Court (where Precedent is binding).

 

You have this tendency to put words in all caps as if that makes your argument any stronger.

Obstruction of Justice will be part of the articles of impeachment.