The Latest: House won't vote to formalize impeachment probe

Yeah....like the rise and fall of shares is the great arbiter. Nah.

 

Shares? I poste the nationwide Gross Domestic Product.

 

If you did.....you did not address it to me. All you gave me was "Wall Street" stuff.

Have a butcher's hook at this.

https://www.thebalance.com/us-economic-outlook-3305669

 

Trump's cult of personality is emotionally enthralled by their television entertainer whose celebrity, he boasts, licenses him to grab women by their private parts. In their passion, they have elevated denial to a sacramental obligation.

They lap up his blatant lies with gusto, whether he is telling them that climate change is a Chinese hoax, that millions of invisible people all voted against him in the 2016 election and cost him a popular vote victory, or railing about imaginary prayer rugs and duct-taped women littering the border. Of course, his lies are calculated to pleasure his followers as he tells them what they want to hear with no regard to truth whatever.

Some deem his cult intellectually deficient and painfully gullible, but their blind devotion is not a matter of intellect, but one of emotion, heart over head. It is why their messiah lapsed into truth when he brayed that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and they would not care. For them, he is not only above the law, but above human decency.

While most sensible, patriotic Americans consistently and relentlessly disapprove of his squalid behavior and contempt for American values, his idolaters swoon at his pep rallies like teeny bopper adolescents at their heart throb's performance, their critical faculties enfeeble by their juvenile ardor.

Whenever anyone does draw attention to their idol's absurdities, they become petulant and sulk, or lash out incoherently.

They are now close to a state of panic, because their deity is befouling himself so lavishly.

 

So you admit they went into this without either and there the PROPER investigative body found nothing they magically will?

 

There are no waiting indictments. There were no referrals of obstruction of justice from the investigation in fact even the Office of Legal Counsel said no obstruction of justice.

 

I am saying that they went into the impeachment inquiry phase with the prima facie evidence of wrongdoing and that wrongdoing has been confirmed and continues to be strengthened throughout the process.

And I am also saying that Trump's personally appointed AG will not be the decision maker which decides whether to pursue Obstruction of Justice criminal charges against Trump after he leaves office.

 

Trump is Individual-One who directed Michael Cohen to commit a felony and his tax returns are currently being sought by the NY AG, so I wouldn't hold my breath on "no waiting indictments."

And I still bet you that Trump's multiple instances of Obstructing Justice during the Mueller probe will become part of the basis for a criminal proceeding against Trump after he leaves office.

 

Where is the waiting indictment? And Mueller was quite clear in his report NO WAITING INDICTMENTS and he CLOSED his office. The Clinton OIC was kept open BECAUSE it had waiting indictments. Who is going to indict Trump when the investigation brought no charges of a crime?

 

The SDNY will prosecute Trump for being the Individual-1 who directed Michael Cohen to commit a felony violation of the campaign finance law. The NY AG will prosecute Trump for multiple tax fraud violations. And the NDVa will prosecute Trump for multiple counts of Obstruction of Justice.

 

What prima facie evidence of a crime? The Deputy Attorney General and the Office of Legal Counsel all agreed on the decision that no obstruction of justice occurred and the LAW stated the AG made the final determination. There ARE NO PENDING CHARGES, NO PENDING INDICTMENTS.

 

And yet there is an Official Impeachment Inquiry ongoing.

Enjoy.

 

Not until the House votes to say so. What is going on is an, as I just heard Ken Starr put it, anti-constitutional proceeding by individual members of Congress. Looking for something anything to over turn the election and influence to upcoming one.

And if Biden wins and the Republicans take the House I'm sure you will be OK with them immediately starting an "impeachment inquiry" and start subpoenaing everyone associated with him and all his records to see what they can find especially todo with his and his sons Ukraine/China schemes.

 

Since there was no felony on Trump's part.....................
And why didn't they prosecute Trump years ago for these tax frauds, it's not like he was in hiding all that time? An NDV on what OOJ charge when the DOJ said there was none? Even Mueller said his investigation was not obstructed.

 

Feel free, you won't even get a majority of the Republicans to sign on to that plan.

And yes, the Official Impeachment Inquiry is ongoing regardless of whether you or Ken Starr understands the Constitutional requirements for launching an Impeachment Inquiry.

 

Directing someone to commit a felony is a felony.

And why didn't they prosecute Trump's Campaign Manager, Paul Manafort, for the tax frauds that he definitely committed.

And yes, the Northern District of Virginia will filed an OOJ charge after the person appointed by Trump to protect him is no longer in charge of making that decision.

Even Mueller said that Trump arguably committed no fewer than 10 instances of Obstruction of Justice.

 

Paying for a NDA with your own money is not a felony or even against the law.

I could care less about Manafort.

The DOJ already adjudicated it and the OLC trumps, forget the pun, the US Attorney in the NDV. But let them take that to court and watch the defense put the former AG, the former DAG and head of the OLC and even Mueller to testify the brought no charges of OOJ as a result of the investigation and that the investigation was NOT OBSTRUCTED. Summarily dismissed.

 

Oh after the precedent the Democrats are establishing why wouldn't they, there is more evidence of corruption there than with Trump. And there is no "official" the House which has the sole power to start one has not voted to do so. If it was official then why can't the minority call witnesses? Why can't all members of the minority read the transcripts of the inquisitions? What has Schiff put a gag order on the Republicans on the committee? Why is a White House Counsel present during the inquisitions? Why is the intelligence committed doing this instead of judiciary or better yet a joint special committee? And I think Starr knows more about it than you.

 

Is this suppose to be more parody? When are you and shifty gonna realize folks actually read the mueller report and follow the news in real time? Do you think if you repeat parody enough and often people will start believing it?

 

Yes, the Impeachment Inquiry has started as they are following the House Rules and the US Constitution

House Rules.

House Rules.

House Rules.

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House Rules.

That's cool. If he said that the current impeachment inquiry is not official until the entire House votes, then he is wrong.

 

Ordering someone to hide and lie about their campaign contribution is a felony violation of the law.

I wouldn't either if I wanted to use the "he hasn't been prosecuted by the IRS yet, so it must mean that he is innocent of tax crimes" talking point.

Trump is free to trot out as many character and expert witnesses as he would like to try and persuade a jury that he did not obstruct justice. It isn't a very compelling argument.

 

Your memory fails you.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...eachment-probe.563007/page-12#post-1071072935

 

There’s no due process in an impeachment in the house or in a grand jury. House impeachment carries zero penalties so why would due process be needed?

 

Nice rant and deflection, can you even try to answer my questions or would you find it to embarrassing?

 

Since when was a "penalty" required?