Berlin denies "Reagan" Statue to erected on its soil...US have to park it on their embassy

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  1. Farnsworth

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    Where did I say Bush I invaded, and who would he have needed 'permission' from? this is bizarre and has nothing to do with what I said, so it must be a screed of some kind.

    I'm not much interested in what Putin thinks about anything, he's just another corrupt Russian organized crime boss. He will sooner or later get shot in the head by one of his own.
     
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    You decided to ignore history and join the right wing Tree House Clubs? It does gets you more drinks in bars, that's for sure. Ideologues on the left and right need a different alternative history the real ones. We even have 'Libertarians' and other right wingers holding Pity Parties for the Japanese and Nazis now; it seems that they were just poor hapless peaceful victims sucked into war because of the manipulations of the Sinister and Evul Democrat FDR!!! That narrative is getting popular play with the right wing press.
     
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    Reagan made a speech near the wall, and that saved Germany? Okay. Reagan was already out of office when the final collapse came, but I see how the fantasy must be kept alive for some ideologies.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I remained loyal to Democrats until the end of Carter for crying out loud. I did my time in hell. They are making a huge mistake holding such pity parties. FDR was no saint. He was my first actual president. As a kid I could not vote for him though. Why the left bestowed sainthood on FDR is a huge mystery.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The speech impacted the Germans living there. Reagan also went into the Soviet Union and so impressed Russian students they were also craving freedom after he explained it to him. Stalin would have shot Reagan were he still alive at the time. If you think after decades as communists, suddenly they on their own saw the light, think again. Reagan really was the reason why the Soviet empire became an empty suit. When Kennedy talked at the wall, the Germans did not rise up for freedom. He was there when I was there. But he did not inspire the Germans to get freedom. Reagan did.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bush 41 did invade Iraq. Spend some time reading this book. Into the Storm an autobiography of General Fred Franks. I recommend it to any student of ME history. (he is no relative of the later general Tommy Franks)
     
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    You have zero clue and overestimate yourself. In a way its pathetic you try to steal other nations achievements as your own. You make me sick.

    In your twisted worldview others always ened an american to lead them. Guess somewhere was also an american that led the germanic tribes to stand against Rome.

    Simply pathetic.

    You know i think we made a mistake. We should have accepted the statue and then place it in a city sewer.
     
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    How soon can you learn Russian?

     
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    My grandparents and parents grew up in eastern Germany and speak no russian.

    I would like to know what makes you think eastern Germany does speak russian? You are funny.
     
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    Answer the question.
     
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    I dont speak russian. Nobody in my family does. I also would not learn russian. There is no reason too.

    Germany speaks German.

    Your ignorance is amazing.
     
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    Im gonna ask you one more time.

    How soon can you learn Russian?
     
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    Pretty slow. Propably years, since i have no motivation nor need to do it. :) How about one word per year?
     
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    Great fiction, but I bet somebody has already put that in a book and copyrighted it.
     
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    Cut Sobo some slack. He is just a kid compared to several of us (he is 27) which means he wasn't even born until after the Berlin Wall came down and Germany was reunited. He has lived his entire life in a united Germany and probably thinks German was divided just to keep it down rather than due to the Soviet Union.

    He doesn't even remember that East Germany was an economic disaster that upon reunification had to be rescued by West Germany to the tune of tens of billions of Marks.
     
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    Indeed. It is called "World History".
     
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    I know the history; that response was to Jeanette, who was responding to stuff I never said. I never brought up the invasion, Bush I, nor Putin.
     
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    More like 'Stuff I Wished Had Happened, But Is Only True On The Innernetz", another Bill Reilly book.
     
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    Yet you credit Lyndon Johnson with the fall of the Soviet Union who hadn't been in office for more than 20 years when that occurred. And dead most of that time.
     
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    LBJ's policies in the 1960's bankrupted the Soviet Union and shut down Soviet imperialism in Africa, the ME, and SE Asia. The were toast by 1973, not '20 years later'. Nixon merely continued his polices, plus he could get away with the bombing campaign, something the 'right wing would have impeached Johnson for. Not Reagan, not Ford, not Carter, not Bush I, not Bush II shut them down. We fed them, shipped them fuel, pharmaceuticals, etc., to keep them from collapsing into anarchy and civil war, out of fear of who would end up with their nukes and chemicals. Republican polices didn't do squat, especially Reagan's, who inane babbling only provided the Communist hard liners with fodder to use against Gorbachev's reforms. Reagan's rubbish added another 7 years to the crisis.

    This might not fit your fantasies, or maybe you're just spreading bullshit propaganda because you think it will get votes for something or other, but that's all right, you can keep believing whatever nonsense you want; nobody takes right wingers any more seriously than they take left wingers these days. You're all here just for entertainment purposes, not factual discussions.
     
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    Yeah, no wonder when you have the a thousand Super Heroes and there just the female’s including one with a fox’s tail tied to her butt.

    First American troops arrive in Britain 1943 and one walks into a pub.
    “Hi Yank, the first drink is on the house.”
    “Gee thanks.”
    “It’s over there at the end of the bar but it maybe a bit flat.”
    “Flat?” asked the Yank.
    “Yeah, well it’s been waiting for you for about two and a half years.”
     
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    So LBJs policies shut down Soviet imperialism in Africa and Asia by 1973.

    Yet.

    in 1973 the Soviets shipped massive amounts of arms to Egypt and Syria during the build up and during the Yom Kippur (October) War of 1973.
    In 1977 the Soviets airlifted thousands of Cuban troops to Africa to fight on behalf of Marxist regimes there.
    In 1979 the Soviets invaded Afghanistan.

    I think you have a bad case of "Texas pride" to give Lyndon Johnson credit for the end of the Cold War. Could you refer me to the work of a single credible historian who does that?
     
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    Truly funny that.
     
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    FDR should have been impeached for creating Japanese internment camps.
     
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    I correct that for you, Concentration Camps for US citizens.
     
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