Berlin denies "Reagan" Statue to erected on its soil...US have to park it on their embassy

You are a pilot?
My understanding was that the pilots of those crashed planes were trained to handle traditional 737 and 737 Max differ significantly. Boeing selling 737 Max as same type as regular 737 was almost criminal in my mind. That aircraft should have been declared a brand new line and go through certification process of a brand new aircraft, not just a modified design as they tried to do. Boeing got greedy - they wanted to sell the aircraft as an updated version of 737 which avoids airlines the expense of going through pilot retraining. That is Boeing’s true sin and it is paying for it now with publicity blow and the blow to its bottom line.
It will get out of it eventually, but I hope the company learned its lessons and will not do such things in the future.

 

To borrow a phrase, I don't think that's going to fly.

 

There are many Sobos in Germany. But bear in mind, there is still love for Reagan there too. Berlin appreciates Reagan far more than the former East Germans do.

When I was based in Germany in the Army, my impression was that Germans loved the money we brought to them. Even when we were roaming their area with trucks, jeeps and tanks, they flooded the roads with things like Chickens since we paid in 1963 a fat sum per chicken of about $50. I have never had a chicken worth $50 even up to 2019. I asked our damage people why so much for a chicken. A formula was worked out it seems over things like more eggs and the added value of a lot more chickens per hen. Anyway, it was common for our vehicles to kill a lot of chickens that suddenly showed up on the German roads when we showed up.

 

Explain then the flying history where perhaps 2 thousand pilots safely flew that airplane for a number of years?

The first 737 MAX performed its first flight on January 29, 2016. The series gained FAA certification in March 2017. The first delivery was a MAX 8 in May 2017, to Malindo Air, which placed the aircraft into service on May 22, 2017.
Unit cost: MAX 7: US$99.7 million; MAX 8: US...
Developed from: Boeing 737 Next Generation
Primary users: Southwest Airlines; American A...
First flight: January 29, 2016
Boeing 737 MAX - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Boeing_737_MAX

 

It cracks me up when a person condemns non-existent arrogance while posting a particularly arrogant post. It speaks to an intense insecurity imho.
Reagon was instrumental in changing the course of Russia, and his pressure and strategy resulted in bringing down the wall. Really should be appreciated by all. When we were turned down when we asked for a statue, our ambassador in a classy way opted for another solution. We were the classy ones. Germany was arrogant. That's the truth of it.

 

I don't believe you accurately described what Boeing did or why. But the argument it was a new type is met by the fact the FAA still certified the airplane. My major theme here on this particular airplane is since the first pilot with passengers safely took off and landed, followed by nearly 400 more also safely flying, it is highly likely it was how those two particular crashed 737s handled pilot training rather than the fault of the airplane. Many pilots flew that airplane and had no problem.

 

I have an Iranian buddy whose grandfathr disappeared under your beloved Shah.

What value has a leader like the Shah who depnds on SAVAK to stay in power?

Our countries are not allied anymore.

New for you, if your country sanctions Nordstream II pipeline, which would be an enormous attack against Germany, news today say Germany would face oil shortages.

We will see what your regime will do. This would be the final straw. Im excited to see if your country is willing to do that.

 

How are we arroganz when we dont want a statue of a foreign leader in our capital? That is totally out of our culture.

 

Who could fail to see for themselves in the Wall Street Journal video showing Reagan delivering his speech how well received it was by the Germans present at the speech. They loved it.

When Kennedy made his comment that he was a citizen of Berlin, that was also well received. But that did not tell the Soviets to tear down the wall and open Brandenburg Gate.

Germans can't all be like the Germans we read complaining here. Simply they who gained freedom still appreciate our efforts.

 

The wall was teared down by Germans. Not by americans and not by russians. Stop stealing our history.

 

What a wonderful story.
If grandma was a doctor, than she belonged to privileged and protected elite.
You only got jobs and education like that if you were absolute loyal to the system, unwavering, part of the system.
They actually were the system.

 

Shah was not my beloved leader. I know of both good and bad done by him. Savak mostly were worried about by the not rich Iranians. For the elite, most of the time Savak was their friend. An Iranian I met and talked to a lot told me he escaped being killed by the regime that took out the Shah. For him he lost valuable property in Iran due to the regime now in power. So let's not pretend the religious nuts are wonderful to the Iranians. They murdered a lot of Iranians.

Frankly here in the USA, due to the way our media tells us stories, we lack the full story on many international things such as that pipeline you spoke of. I had not heard of that oil pipeline. I do not believe Trump wants Germans to suffer.

 

She could hardly be called loyal to the system since she never joined the USSR friendship.

 

I know that. I have been to the wall when I was in Berlin. I tell Americans when they ask how terrible it was. But Reagan sure was appreciated by Berliners. Guess those from the former Soviet area do not like Reagan.

 

I believe Boeing has admitted their errors and agreed to a redesign. That would be an admission that the prior design was flawed in its design, not pilot error. Your claim that "many pilots flew that airplane and had no problem" is supported by what? Only two crashes? Presumably, the details will come out in the coming law suits and the FAA certification of the modified design.

 

We wont suffer. We wait and see if Trump dares to sanction a German pipeline project. I´m sure you agree that would be a massive intervention into a souvereign nations freedom and democracy.

Your government believes if Nordstream II is stopped, we buy american LNG, which is 30% more expensive. Merkel made clear that will not happen. The pipeline will be completed, no matter what. The problem is, that if sanctions are brought up, it will take several weeks for the state to react and complete it itself. During that time gas shortages are expected in Germany.

As for Iran, i dont say the current regime is good. But its a direct result of american influence.

 

The ones from the former east are indifferent about it. Its the leftist liberal in West Germany who hate Reagan. The east Berliners simply dont care.

 

I well remember East Berlin when dominated by the Soviets. I tell all who want to learn, the Germans were prisoners of the Soviets. I recall the fear of the Soviets in Germany at the time. Reagan was right to call to tear down the wall. He no doubt is well appreciated by the Germans who lived under the Soviets or East Germans as it is.

 

Merkel is your political leader. She can take the blame if things do not work out. We can't force Germany to buy gas from us.

 

You obviously try to force us to buy your LNG.

Thats no option for us. Even more so when UA tries to pressure us.

 

Reports over the years I got from Germany is when the wall fell, for the West Germans it was a huge financial burden they ended up paying for. For that reason probably many Germans wish the wall still was up. Keep this in mind. The Soviets stole Germany's industry from them and put it on rail to the Soviet empire. I talked many years ago to a former East German who escaped the Stasi who explained that the Soviets simply robbed the German economy to keep Germany from ever recovering. Thank Reagan so many Germans got freedom. You did not see how it used to be with your own eyes as I saw it.

 

You can't point to a word I said telling you I want you forced. Why make things up bad about me?

 

This is an American report from 5 months ago. Clearly per you Trump has not sanctioned Russia yet on this pipeline.

The administration of former President Barack Obama also opposed Nord Stream 2.

Trump said Nord Stream 2 “really makes Germany a hostage of Russia if things ever happen that were bad.”

U.S. LNG companies have made some long term deals with European countries, but the shipments are also generally more expensive than gas sent by pipeline from Russia.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-nord-stream-2-natgas-pipeline-idUSKCN1TD267

 

The fact remains that withou the "B-movie actor" (why is that even considered insulting by the way?) then your grandparents would probably still be meeting in secret.

Or dead.

 

Don't know the politics today, but Berlin has long been an SPD city. [The SPD is the Social-Democratic Party.] The Berliners were undoubtedly happy with Reagan's "tear down this wall" speech, but not enough to put up a statute of him. Reagan was certainly an important factor in the break-up of the USSR, but not the only one. A lot of Russians contribute the break-up to their failure in Afghanistan and to over-spending in their effort to compete with the U.S. And, a lot of Western Europeans would contribute the fall of the USSR to the success of the Western economies combined with NATO.