Abortionists killing babes after birth? Infanticide okay?

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    It is a direct impact of abortion restriction
     
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    Have you forgotten your off topic post? So tell us about this "abortion restriction". What year are we talking about?
     
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    Not off topic - I was quoting you

     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    No, you were not quoting me or you would have.
     
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    The term is nothing more than a politically correct muzzle for free speech (on the internet). Go figure, the term was coined by a liberal socialist. It's just another tool in the leftists arsenal. Used in the culture war. Yes, the culture war is real. The soul of America is at stake. To demand that German crimes be treated as sacred and unmentionable is to deprive our discourse of critical truths.

    Anyone demanding that comparisons not be made between our own political culture and that is doing nothing less than attempting to conceal the truth of how things work.

    Godwin's law was formulated by leftists to basically do two things:
    This is just my opinion on the matter, and how I see it right now:

    a) Instantly shift any/all blame or accountability away from the Nazi party. Godwin's law is essentially total immunity for Nazism and Nazi causes. You put the Nazi party up out of reach and beyond reproach. Nice and tucked away for safe keeping! This is nothing but a distraction or diversion to keep a focus on everything BUT Hitler and the Nazis. Do not fall for it! (youll notice she just called out Godwin's law, effectively censoring my previous post. More on that later.

    b) Immediately sever the debate because any comparisons you make after that point will be pointed to as "bogus" or "invalid" - and this is exactly what the liberal left wants. They want to put a hand over your mouth and tell you what to say and what not to say. What to debate with and what is "out of bounds" . Im going to keep on fighting because lives are at stake here.

    Godwin's law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate.

    Godwin's Law does not dispute the validity or otherwise of references or comparison to Hitler or the Nazis. As such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate in a discussion,

    World War II was a major event in human history.I think we should actually be talking more about the Nazis and their socialist government to make sure history does not repeat itself. People need to be educated on the facts. If abortion relates to Nazism that connection should be brought into the light. That's all Im doing, dont shoot the messenger! And instead of discussion, this law promotes silence and almost unceasing respect for the holocaust to a point where it is beyond reproach. This is called censorship.

    Godwin himself appears in comments (authenticity confirmed via email) to explain that his "law" sought to discourage frivolous, but not substantive, Nazi analogies and comparisons.

    Godwin believes the ubiquity of such comparisons trivializes the Holocaust <----------------This is important to remember because it's his premise of sorts (and it's a central theme to our abortionist enthusiasts as well)

    Agree/Disagree?

    Invoking Godwins law implies the Holocaust is a unique event and cannot ever happen again. Here is the list again, Im asking you couner any point you wish. Just let me know one point you can debunk for me!

    *this list is by no means exhaustive
    Jews were:
    1) Not a person
    2) A parasite
    3) Not murdered
    4) Not a person
    5) dehumanized
    6) Subhuman
    7) World is better without them
    8) Experimented on
    9) Tortured
    10) Had no rights
    11) Legal to kill

    Unborn Children are:
    1) Not a person
    2) A parasite
    3) Not murdered
    4) Not a person
    5) dehumanized
    6) Subhuman
    7) World is better without them
    8) Experimented on
    9) Tortured
    10) Have no rights
    11) Legal to kill



    Liberal buzzword of the day: fallacious
     
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    Iron_Merc Banned

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    Sorry for the long winded posts guys if you check the bold print for details at that will give you the general idea of what im going for.

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    You keep posting Nazi analogies and I will keep pointing out Godwin’s law
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    There ARE no “dead babies”

    So your fictional character is spreading fiction
     
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    I wanted you to answer at least one question for me? Or debunk at least one similarity... is that too difficult?

    Fiction is believing Planned Parenthood is good for our society (more on that below)
    Nice job turning mothers into killers though!

    *dead fetuses would be better phraseology, right?

    Mary Gatter, president of the medical directors’ council at the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, is the same executive who, in a previous undercover video, was caught saying she wanted to buy a Lamborghini with the profits from fetal tissue. In the new video, when an undercover journalist tells Ms. Gatter he is willing to pay $50 per fetal tissue specimen, she says that’s “on the low end.”

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    And all of those videos were faked and altered

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-planned-parenthood-charged-with-15-felonies/
     
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    Here they go again MINIMIZING what the Jews endured by claiming it wasn't murder !!!!( AGREEING WITH THE NAZIS!!!!!)

    You and the Nazis may not have called it murder but the entire rest of the world did !!!!!




    The UNBORN have no rights.

    The BORN do.


    GET OVER IT! YOU LOST!

    In abortion the fetus dies a quick painless death and to compare that to the horrors of what Jews suffered is despicable!






    The most despicable act is to compare the horror, injustice, torture and death that Jews and slaves endured to the quick painless death of a fetus THUS DENIGRATING (OR DENYING !!!!!) WHAT JEWS and SLAVES ENDURED....A DEPLORABLE DESPICABLE THING TO DO..

    The total lack of respect for what slaves (mostly blacks) and Jews endured, to say it was nothing, is the sickest thing on the earth.....and says everything there is to know about those who do that...

    Fetuses are not and were not tortured, raped, murdered, ..they did not slave in a hot southern sun from dawn to dark with no compensation, they were not sold, they had NO grotesque experiments performed on them, they did not have all their property stolen from them, they were not starved, they were not beaten, they were not herded like animals into pens, they did NOT have their rights taken away, they were NOT declared non-humans , they did not FEEL the unbelievable pain that Jews and slaves endured.

    Slaves and Jews WERE forced to gestate, EXACTLY WHAT ANTI-CHOICERS WISH TO DO TO WOMEN.
     
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    Unbelievable…...maybe you should research just where English ( NOTE THE NAME OF OUR LANGUAGE )came from....and then where American English came from...

    HINT: It didn't originate in the United States...
     
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    ;) I wonder when he'll connect the word "English" to the language he's speaking ….too funny..
     
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    Are you still pretending that is the topic? Make a thread on it.

    ;)
     
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    Centuries? Then you should be able to show proof that Pro-Choicers don't think a live fetus is alive...

    ..or you could just keep rambling on with no proof whatsoever....;)
     
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    Wow! And I even linked back to the post I quoted
     
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    PETA points out that you treat animals like the Nazis treated Jews. By your standards, that makes you Nazi filth. Not by our standards, as our standards aren't insane like yours are, but since those are your standards, you have to apply them to yourself.

    You've got a problem. Either ...

    A. Your own standards say you're Nazi filth.
    or
    B. Your "If I say it's a person, it's a person!" standard is nonsense.

    In either case, nobody should pay any attention to you. So they don't.
     
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    Abortion decisions should be between the two parents alone. It's between them and God. But women simply won't have it. They insist that it's their decision alone. Okay, do as you will. It's between you and God.

    See? Not my problem. Don't care. Anyone who considers what she does to be their problem is, in my opinion, out of bounds right up until orgs like PP decide to make an industry of selling the aborted parts. Then it becomes everyone's business because, for one thing, the evidence is very clear that they won't stop at abortions to get their body parts. That's not the only problem either.
     
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    The real evidence is clear that PP did not sell body parts.
     
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    FALSE.

    This is just damage control from the democrats / liberals because they were caught with their hand in the cookie jar. What else do you expect them to say? "We sell Body Parts as a profit"? LOL

    Wasnt there recently an abortionist enthusiast who had over 2,000 dead fetuses in his house?
     
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    Heh heh heh ...
     
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    They were caught planning to do so at least. We probably can't know to what extent they had been doing that, however.

    Where there's smoke there's fire.
     
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    Planned Parenthood Medical Director: “Dismemberment” Abortion “Checkbox” Skirts Federal Partial-Birth Law

    Planned Parenthood “Lamborghini” Exec Haggles Again Over Baby Parts Prices

    Planned Parenthood Abortionist: “Pay Attention To Who’s In The Room” To Deal With Infants Born Alive

    Planned Parenthood Orange County Changes Abortions to Harvest Intact Fetuses for Local Company’s “Fetal Products” Sales

    Planned Parenthood ally National Abortion Federation Suggests “Group Purchasing Program” for Fetal Parts, Payments “A Win-Win” for Clinics

    Planned Parenthood Houston Admits Accounting Gimmicks Hide Baby Parts Sales, Invoices Charge Thousands of Dollars

    Planned Parenthood TX Abortion Apprentice Taught Partial-Birth Abortions to “Strive For” Intact Baby Brains

    Top Planned Parenthood Exec Agrees Baby Parts Sales “A Valid Exchange,” Some Clinics “Generate a Fair Amount of Income Doing This”

    Planned Parenthood Baby Parts Vendor Advanced Bioscience Resources Pays Off Clinics, Intact Fetuses “Just Fell Out”

    Planned Parenthood Baby Parts Buyer StemExpress Wants “Another 50 Livers/Week,” Financial Benefits for Abortion Clinics

    Intact Fetuses “Just a Matter of Line Items” for Planned Parenthood TX Mega-Center

    Planned Parenthood VP Says Fetuses May Come Out Intact, Agrees Payments Specific to the Specimen

    Second Planned Parenthood Senior Executive Haggles Over Baby Parts Prices, Changes Abortion Methods

    Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

    These vile and disgusting acts against our unborn WILL BE STOPPED

    Planned Parenthood WILL BE STOPPED.

    Go ahead and challenge any of these points, I'd be more than happy to go into details.

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    http://www.centerformedicalprogress.org/cmp/investigative-footage/

    Center for Medical Progress has documented PP's practice of selling body parts. What they have on video and in writing is just the tip of the iceberg.
    Anything PP says in regards to these real videos is a lie because the full non cropped videos are also available for you to watch.

    My point is they were caught doing a lot more than "planning" to sell baby parts.

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    Idiotic, anti-abortion sentences, no matter how often they are repeated do not make a statement true.


    If you want to show proof, find a legitimate site that has the facts on the court case (like from the government) and the findings.....a real court....not the "court" of your opinion.
     
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