How Bad Obama Was and Is

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  1. mitchscove

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    The liberal polling firm came out with this sobering news for democrats– An Obama endorsement is a kiss of death.
    Via PPP:

    Democrats are going to have to think really carefully about how they deploy Barack Obama for campaigning this fall. Polls we’ve conducted nationally and in several different states over the last few weeks have found that a candidate being endorsed by Obama is much more likely to elicit a negative response from Republican voters than a positive one from Democrats.



    PPP’s most recent national survey found that while Obama had a positive approval rating at 48/47, only 33% of voters were more likely to vote for a candidate endorsed by him while 48% said support from Obama would make them less likely to vote for someone. That’s because only 64% of voters who approve of the President say his endorsement would make them more inclined to vote for a candidate, but 91% who disapprove say Obama’s support makes it less likely they would vote for one of his preferred candidates.


    To put into perspective the perils of having Obama out on the campaign trail, consider the numbers in his home state of Illinois. Even there just 26% of voters say they’d be more inclined to back an Obama endorsed candidate while 40% say his support would be more likely to turn them against a candidate.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2010/06/confirmed-obama-endorsement-is-kiss-of-death/

    @RealCandaceO

    What I learned this election cycle: @BarackObama’s endorsement is a political kiss of death. Politely decline next time, political-hopefuls! Americans views him as a bad salesman who has his strings pulled by globalists. Trump obliterated his legacy.

    9:44 AM - 7 Nov 2018
     
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    Trump and his minions keep touting his great economy and comparing it to Obama's. Not a good comparison. In 2008 due to the financial shenanigans of Wall Street and the financial industry there were 2.6 million jobs lost. When Obama was sworn in (Jan. 2009) there were 800,000 layoffs, when Trump was sworn in Jan 2016 the economy created 227,000 jobs. Looks like to me that Trump started on 3rd base and when he scored he claimed he hit a home run. But as has been said many time facts are a stubborn thing especially for the Mango Mauler. As for the debt increase during Obama's term you need to remember that the "great recession" sucked around 4-5 billion dollars of wealth and value out of the economy. The stimulus package, which was in large part a tax cut bill, was valued at 1.2 billion. That is quite meager package and left quite a hole to fill just to get above ground and took years to recover from. But to the Trumpers he solved all of the problems as soon as he got into office!
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Then you geniuses should have beaten him. Takes smarts to overcome a popular vote disadvantage to win an election by an electoral college landslide.

    Just takes names of dead people and a caravan of illegals to win the popular vote. Democrats are already clipping obituaries in preparation for 2020.
     
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    You need to add, Engineering a coup against the incoming President.
    I see the lefties are touting that "but nobody went to prison on Obama's watch" … which is a prime reason why we voted for Donald J Trump... a lot of people should be in prison for all the malfeasance perputrated by the Obama Admin.. BUT as any rational person will admit, there's one law for dems (or perhaps NO LAW) and another for Republicans (especially conservative Republicans) and the MSM covers for Dems while destroying Trump supporters.
     
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    Recoveries are historically faster than organic growth. That's just a fact. Obama was in Congress when the minimum wage increase threw lower and lower middle class homeowners out of their jobs and their homes. The banks did what Democrats wanted them to do ,,, originate toxic loans to satisfy Andrew Cuomo's demand that Fannie & Freddie buy millions of mortgages extended to poor people.

    Because Cuomo used Fannie & Freddie, the mortgage based securities containing the toxic loans were rated AAA ---- backed by the faith and credit of uncle sugar.

    TARP I unlocked credit causing the markets to bottom on March 2, 2009. Obama hadn't even found the closet where Bubba boinked Monica by that time. The money Obama threw at his friends did nothing to end the recession. Obama's attack on the recovering economy slowed the recovery.
     
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    LOLOL.. Have you ever bothered to look at the requirements for voter registration by state?

    I know Trump is stupid so he can claim 3-5 million illegals voted, but you?
     
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    Yeah.. Obama's economy... "funemployment" and the "new norm" , the only people that liked Obama's economy are the same corrupt bunch that hate Trump because they fear, are terrifiied , that they will be prosecuted.. and , at the very least, have been exposed, and their corruption at the very least, slowed.
     
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    Former President Barack Obama still has more favorable ratings than Trump will ever get.
     
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    In California, breathing is a requirement. That doesn't mean a breathing Mexican can't claim to be a dead American. They hand out driver's licenses like candy and register anyone who has one. Isn't NY planning to lower the voting age to 12 or 16? Soon they will likely ban post birth abortions within a week of an election. The ballot is the one thing that may save the life of the doomed unwanted winner in the abortion lottery.
     
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    Careful with the Kool-Aid, Mitch. It really is not good for you.
     
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    What is the point of your crap?
     
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    Once again the facts allude you-from the net-The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is a program of the United States government to purchase toxic assets and equity from financial institutions to strengthen its financial sector that was passed by a Democratic Party controlled Congress and signed into law by Republican Party President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008. It was a component of the government's measures in 2008 to address the subprime mortgage crisis. I was talking about the stimulus package.
     
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    This is all that needs to be said about Democrats:

    Woman Convicted of Voter Fraud Honored by Ohio Democrats
    CINCINNATI – A long-time poll worker who admitted to illegal voting was sentenced to five years in prison Wednesday and received a rebuke from the judge, who cited her criminal past.Melowese Richardson, 58, pleaded no contest to four counts of illegal voting in 2009, 2011 and 2012. One count charged her with voting for her sister, who is in a coma. Four other counts were dropped in exchange for Richardson’s plea.During a passionate sentencing speech, Hamilton County Judge Robert P. Ruehlman laid out a laundry list of past charges against Richardson – from witness harassment to theft to assault – as Richardson stood before him.


    That was only eight months ago. For some reason, she has already been released.At an event that was all about voting law, Ohio Democrats invited a person guilty of multiple counts of voter fraud to speak – to “welcome her back” and applaud her.They invited her up to the stage, like some sort of hero.


    Democrats seem to oppose any changes in the law that make it harder to cheat. Their embrace of Melowese Richardson shows where their intentions actually lie.


    To call Democrats human waste is a compliment.
     
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    This was also generally true of Obama endorsements back when he was still president; but, of course, it was something that the Mainstream Media either glossed over or outright ignored while they shrieked about how everybody to the Left of Center LOVED Obama. The MSM never bothered to connect the dots when Obama actually needed Bill Clinton to campaign for him after Barack won the primaries in 2008 and then again Obama needed Bill to campaign for him in 2014.
     
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    The markets bottomed on March 2, 2009 --- the panic that locked up credit was over. The Stimulus started paying out later and was a payoff to Obama's friends to the tune of almost $900B in the first year. Because Pelosi and Reid would not entertain a budget in the out years, the spending components, subject to baseline budgeting, increased by 6% each year. The sequester finally stopped the hemorrhaging.
     
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    cant match screen shots darlin, there's no metadata attached to them.
    try lookin under .gov , you'll eventually find it.
     
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    True. And having an adoring MSM complex behind you helps tremendously. When only 2 sources even dare to criticize, its kind of hard for average people to have any clue the **** thats really going on. And when those 2 sources are accused of racism for that criticism, that was the start of what we call cancel culture. And now, Leftists are on overdrive trying to eliminate anyone with opposing views. Its quite dangerous.
     
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    Don't Blame Obama For Doubling The Federal Debt - Forbes
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...-than-reagan-h-w-bush-or-w-bush/#3c0507df1917

    Republicans use a sound bite that the federal debt doubled under Obama. In looking at the numbers that is close to being numerically correct but falls short of being 100%. However when you take into account the Great Recession, making W. Bush’s temporary tax cuts permanent, increased Social Security and Medicare spending as more Baby Boomers retire and become 65 years old and the Afghanistan and Iraq wars he inherited the story is quite different.
     
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    You must have missed the quotes from Obama during his presidency which opposed wealth accumulation. Then he turns around and buys a mansion.
     
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    ,,, that he claimed would be under water because of Climate Change.
     
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    And???

    Are you saying that one cannot oppose wealth accumulation and buy an expensive house?

    In any case, he has not bought any mansions lately.

    C'mon.
     
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    Um... yes! LOL. Are you freaking serious?

    Are you seriously trying to defend somebody bitching and moaning about wealth inequality and leveling the playing field, and then spending millions on a home for 2 people. Seriously?

    Does partisanship prevent people from seeing hypocrisy?
     
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    I think you are better qualified to answer that last question.

    Anyway...some BILLIONAIRES oppose wealth inequality. Many millionaires do also.
     
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