Will You Still Vote For Trump If He Gets Impeached?

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    Perhaps, you don't know. Joe Biden is the leading Democratic candidate. Polls show he has the best chance of beating Trump.

    Trump did not mention corruption in either his April 21 call to Zelensky or his July 25 call. Since he got caught in September, he probably was bright enough to say something about corruption involving the Bidens, but no one what corruption he is talking about. That includes you.
     
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    Because people like YOU are dividing our country, and people like you are UNDERMINING our unity. Putin is very pleased with you, Sandy. VERY pleased.

    You are doing exactly what Putin wants you to do.
     
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  3. Lesh

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    No.

    And I have no idea what this thread's purpose is.

    Trying to shore up Trumpers to keep support from slipping?
     
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    Nobody knows. The entire dossier is unverifiable. And this damn bogus POS thing has dragged the USA through hell for 2-1/2 years.
     
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    Uh IG report says otherwise further most of it appears to have been little more than bar room chatter.
     
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    That is irrelevant if you can't prove that Trump asked for those investigations because of it. Tell me, do you even know WHY Trump asked for those investigations? Hint: The answer starts with "M" and ends with "A" and includes the letters "edi".

    April 21 doesn't even mention the Biden's, or any investigation for that matter so you bringing it up is pointless.

    As for the July 21 call, actually he does refer to corruption, even if he didn't state it outright.
     
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  7. Lesh

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    Ya know what the conclusions of the IG report were?

    That the FISA warrant on Carter Page was justified and that there was no political bias in any actions taken

    Ya know what it also showed?

    That the NY office particularly favored Trump. And that leaks from the NY office through Rudy the Ghoul were responsible for the "reopening" of the Clinton e-mail investigation on the eve of the election
     
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    I'd rate Trump's chances of being re-elected at 50/50, which is low for any incumbent. I think the guy actually wants to be impeached, because he has a narcissistic personality, just like the Clintons. I think the vast majority of people already made up their minds whether they'll vote for him in 2020, and whether he's impeached doesn't factor into it.
     
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    Exactly.

    One thing is for sure, The "Hard-Core Trump Base" will never abandon him.

    No matter what.

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    In fact, the Steele Dossier was a product of Russian intelligence.
    I bet you know that. ;-)
     
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    Not interested in the 'media' push or even a push by specific progressive Dems your link lines up. That is a huge leap from what you claimed. Your statement was that 'The Dems' were hollering to impeach Trump from day one. That means that Dems are a class or group wanted to impeach from as early as inauguration day.. Your link shows nothing of the sort. In fact by no objective measure did either the majority of Dems in the country support it from day one. Neither did the majority of Dems that control the House that early. If they did, someone more liken Maxine Waters would be Speaker, instead Nancy Pelosi. You can't refute the obvious. Those Dems chose an opponent of impeachment to lead their caucus probably because the majority did not want to use that Mueller investigation as a basis to impeach. Her election as Speaker belies your claim.
     
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    Wrong attitude. If more people think this way it could go to the Democrats.
     
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    Did you watch the Senate questioning? It's damn clear that the finding was at best a half decayed fig leaf, existing only because no one confessed it is also clear that the investigation of Carter Page whom Brennan's own CIA said was one of theirs was fraudulent from the got go. This was among the seventeen 'errors' listed. It's also stated that current rules regarding the FBI commencing investigations are far too lax. Basically those rules allow them to open an investigation of almost anyone for very nearly no reason at all. In this case the fact that all the errors pointed out pointed in exactly the same direction and the direction was right at then candidate Trump and anyone and everyone that might have the gall to work for him. Thus poor old popadopolus who had barely even been in the same state with Trump gets set up and framed.
     
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    You bet. If he is guilty of abuse of power, it pales in comparison to that of his predecessors.
     
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    Your post was relatively accurate by your standards although it whines about rather small issues (in the grand scheme of all of this) until you got to the Papa claim.

    Poor Papa? He got drunk in a bar and bragged about his Russian connections and made claims about having Russian "dirt" on Hillary

    If you're an adviser to a major Presidential candidate that will get you an FBI investigation every time.

    And rightfully so
     
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    That is wrong. Papa was merely repeating what Misfud had told him, and Misfud was not a Russian operative.
     
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    As the Democrats are influenced by "Tit For Tat" advisers, how might they use this video?
     
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    Anyone who wants Trump thrown from office only knows the bad stuff being said about him.

    The minute they start learning the other side, about the great things he has done, then their opinion might change. (Unless they are an enemy of America who dont care or dont want anything good for America.)

    The media feeds only the bad things about Trump to their audiences.

    And much of that isnt even true.

    www.magapill.com

    (Click on each accomplishment to read a 3rd party account of it.)

    The Video That Made Me Love Trump (By Brandon Straka, a Gay Hillary voter who CRIED that the despised Donald Trump won the election.)

     
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    I want to be succinct in my reply:

    Baloney!
     
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    Your opinion would mean more to us if we believed you had come to it after apprising yourself of BOTH sides of the story.

    You havent.

    So, it doesnt.
     
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    But unlike the Democrats they're all true.
     
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    His minions will vote for him even if he shoots someone on 5th avenue...probably even if its their mother.
     
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    I have appraised BOTH sides of the story. The side you are arguing doesn't make sense. For any American continuing to support Trump...doesn't make sense.

    If the things Trump is doing were being done by former President Obama or former Secretary of State Clinton...

    ...I suspect people on your side of this thing would be out on the streets with pitchforks and torches.

    I doubt we will agree on this, Babalu.
     
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    Positions of leadership require a skillful mix of humanity and practicality.

    To achieve the mission which those being led have all signed on to achieve, the leader must be true to the goals and feelings of all of the group individually and collectively.

    But when there is a question of sacrificing the goal because of any one person's feelings or objections, the group and the mission must come first.

    The group must also ask themselves what, if anything, would be gained by dumping an effective leader for less than reasons which didnt impact their group as a whole and the mission?


    Would America be better off or worse off if America dumped Trump?

    It depends on what he did wrong.

    Shooting someone on 5th Avenue?

    I would still enthusiastically support him if he had a good reason.

    I would still support him if he had a flimsy reason.

    I would carefully weigh the pros and cons if he had no good reason.

    Let's say he shot someone hurting his family.

    Murder.

    Yeah, he still has my support.

    A Leftist zealot might willingly sacrifice himself by hurting the President's family with the hope the President would kill him and be removed from office.

    NOTHING is more important than fixing our country and no one in sight is as capable of doing that job than Donald J. Trump.

    It would take a whole hell of a lot for him to lose my support, and there is nothing that I can imagine him actually doing would make me stop supporting him.
     
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    If you knew BOTH sides of the story on Trump, people might value your opinion.

    To the extent that they do not care about what you say, it is because they sense you havent done your homework.

    You only know the BAD stuff about Trump, you only know the fifty percent of the story that is critical.

    But we all knew the bad half when we elected him.

    So because your opinion is only half a load, your comments can be easily dismissed out of hand. You give us nothing to think about that we haven't already considered.

    Old news.

    Try learning the OTHER side and then tell us how you feel.

    www.magapill.com

    Click on each accomplishment to read a detailed 3rd party description.
     
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