Strongsville priest posed as female minor to receive nudes from teenage boy, court records allege

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  1. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Translation: Too many debates lost to guababall. Can't face it. :)
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    How is saying another homosexual pedophile in the ranks of the Catholic church conflating the two?

    Explain your false logic Dave. Are you claiming this isn't the first homosexual pedophile found in the Catholic church?

    Are you claiming homosexual pedophlia doesn't exist?

    Go ahead Dave. I can't wait to see this dance.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What's thenedfextive difference of a religious deity in the sky verse a deity called government?

    There isn't one.
     
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    You would think that "the Church" had learned it's lesson on protecting homosexual pepophile priests. Or for that matter any pedophiles but I have not seen much of any opposite sex pedophilism by Catholic priests.
     
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    It would be over if we can make barbecuing pedophile priests at the holy stake legal and a standard activity. If fact making the death sentence mandatory for a wide range of crimes would make mankind moral again. MMMA ! What would that look like on a hat? MMMA
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know. Seems like there would be some bisexuality in there.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Legally, I would guess there is no distinction. Psychologically, there may be a distinction. I don't know.
     
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    Remember that time I quoted your first post in this very thread? Goodness, I guess it feels like ages now. We were both so young.
     
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    It’s quite simple. There is no logic in distinguishing the sex, same or opposite sex, of the victim or the offender. Neither one holds barring over the other. In pedophilia, regardless of gender, there is a child that is harmed. In homosexuality a bond between consenting adults of the same gender is formed. How you come to the conclusion that pedophilia is related to any sexual orientation is beyond me. Do you believe that pedophilia is merely an orientation and not a mental affliction?
     
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    Hey, what happened to this here? You offered to impart some knowledge. I was happy to take you up on the offer. You didn’t think I’d back away did you? Would you kindly deliver? You’re not a tease, are you?
     
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    You’re going to have to repost that I’m afraid. No idea what you were trying to say.
     
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    I appreciate that you admit that you don’t know. It’s a field that isn’t terribly well understood, as is much of sexuality.
    I’m sure there is some reason for a perpetrator to pick one target versus another, but the desire to be in a relationship with a partner of the same sex is not one of them.
     
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    Sorry typing from my phone.

    What's the effective difference of a religious deity in the sky verse a deity called government?

    There isn't one.
     
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    Of course there is. The first one to come to mind is that a government is capable of affecting real and measurable change. Can a god? Not in any provable way.
     
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    Most pedophiles are not attracted to the sex of the child, especially in prepubescent children, instead it is about access.
     
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    Access and exerting power over another. There’s lots of theories though.
    I’ve heard claims of some form of “miswiring” in the brain that crosses a natural human instinct to care for children with sexual instinct, but I don’t know how valid that theory is.
     
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    While I believe that some higher power exists (but it may not and I have no idea what it is) I know that government exists. That is one of the major differences. We can also hold government accountable but cannot do so with the higher power.
     
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    At the end of the day, people make the change. People make decisions daily in consideration of their faith.

    One makes changes by force, while the other makes changes through voluntary compliance with their faith.

    In either case, people's actions are guided by their belief in something larger than themselves. That is faith. That is religion.
     
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    I think that is less an argument for religion and more an argument for the idea that only people can create change in society.
    To each their own though.
     
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    Remember my response? Oh that's right, you ran from it.

    Here it is again.

    How is saying another homosexual pedophile in the ranks of the Catholic church conflating the two?

    Explain your false logic Dave. Are you claiming this isn't the first homosexual pedophile found in the Catholic church?

    Are you claiming homosexual pedophlia doesn't exist?

    Go ahead Dave. I can't wait to see this dance.

    Going to respond this time or pretend it doesn't exist again?
     
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    what part of science are you denying this time? Be specific so when I provide the evidence there isn't another bout of amnesia again for you.
     
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    Oh, probably just the same bit of science you offered to inform me on in the post I quoted. Don’t be shy now. Lay it on me.
     
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    I’ll respond to this, just as the last time you asked.
    You insist on using the phrase “homosexual pedophile”. The two are distinctly different phenomena. Pedophilia is a mental affliction that drives people to victimize children sexually. Homosexuality is an attraction/love/relationship between two members of the same sex.
    Pedophilia doesn’t change based on the sex of the offender or the victim. That fact that you insist on making the distinction puts on full display your intent to conflate the two.
     
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    lol nono be specific in what you are asking for. You aren't going to play the selective anmesia game with me. What science are you denying specifically that you want evidence for?
     
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    Except you never did respond to this until now.

    So you are denying the term homosexual pedophile exists in scientific studies and documentation. LOL That's far too easy to prove.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756

    https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/explaining-pedophilia#1

    http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/DaileyHomosexualAbuse.php

    And that's just my short list. Homosexual peodphile is absolutely a medical term whether or not you choose to personally believe it.

    How can you pretend the term wouldn't be valid when sexual preference determines the sex of the child victim? Seriously, how did that make sense to you?

    The very defintion of homosexual and hetersoexual in any dictory is not age based. How can you not know this?
     
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