We need a new excuse

So Donald Trump did not fire the Ukrainian ambassador in 2018?

The investigation into the crane wasn't occurring at that moment?

 

Is this how one goes about resolving the confusion in one's head? Oh no, it can't be true. Dear Leader is so perfect, he could never do wrong. Yet here is another, in a long line of others, to tell you otherwise.

He has to be wrong, he just has to be. No way is Dear Leader a corrupt thug. He just isn't. He is the smartest bestest president ever. No way could he ever do wrong. I don't want to hear it, I don't want to hear it, no, no, no, no, it can't be so. No, no, no, no........

 

Wrong as usual the corruption was in Ukraine and revolved around Burissma as agreed by almost everyone in the previous admin, most of the American press, and the British and Ukrainian governments among others. Apparently the only one not allowed to complain about Ukrainian corruption is DJ Trump.

 

Actually data is being collected, analysed, and put into context. Why is it, the question is being repeatedly asked, that Republîcans use "facts" that are so very different than the facts everyone else uses.

 

Apparently Trump thought he could get away with a corrupt act using the officials of one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

 

Obama never solicited other countries to help him develop a false narrative for his reelection efforts. Trump did. That is why Trump has been impeached, and Obama never was.

 

Again only among Democrats would a demand to do something about corruption be considered corrupt.

 

And to think how smug many conservatives feel in knowing that voter suppression and other efforts by Republicans keeps the Republicans within striking distance even though they are in the minority. Trump's cheating is just another case of Republicanism at play.

 

How confused you must be. The Democrats are demanding something be done about the corruption. It is the Republicans who are obstructing the efforts to root out corruption.

 

Because Democrats use manufactured falshoods and say they are facts. TDS blinds people.

Sad really.

 

Yes you're confused alright. There is no corruption on Trump's part, but there is a whole lot on the part of the so-called investigators.

 

Tell us what you know about Bolton. Even the NYT is working off those Oh so famous "ANOMOUS" sources.

 

TDS? Does it stand for Trump's Deranged Sycophants? I agree with you, how sad.

 

I know he didn't deny it was true. Does that count?

Bolton lawyer Charles Cooper blamed the leak on a White House review of the book manuscript. The pre-publication review process for books is believed to be performed largely by archival staff who determine if any classified information needs to be withheld. White House Ukraine adviser Alexander Vindman, who testified against Trump during House proceedings, is not believed to have been involved in the book review.

https://nypost.com/2020/01/27/john-bolton-and-publisher-deny-coordination-of-book-manuscript-leak/

 

No Trump derangement syndrome

 

I tire of all sudden well timed leftie "leaks". All to convenient.
I will answer my question to you, for you. We know nothing.

 

I missed ******awitch. What did he say?

 

If you tried discussing valid points with facts rather than warped theatrics, you might find people would talk to you. However you sound like North Korea in your post, and there's nothing to say except we are sorry for ya.

 

What should have happened here is that a motion for summary judgment of dismissal should have come first, then a vote to end it slams the door. Some republicans seem to want to use their part of this to drag others- such as the Bidens and more- out into daylight, perhaps the motive of getting even- and that has only given them the opportunity to continue throwing trash on the table. According to some pretty reliable accounts, Bolton has nothing in the way of evidence that would change anything, but would like to have his moment to express his displeasure with things. The dems of course will claim it is irrefutable evidence, but like all the rest of their irrefutable evidence, it will fail the test. It is utterly stupid to carry this charade on while the nation's business goes without attention, but if enough people can't see the stupidity of it- then we will have to endure it.

If anyone was able to keep a rational score here- it would be clear the dems can't win this. It's 49-0, goal to go and 1 minute left. Zero chance- Not now, not in 50 do-overs, and there are no witnesses to anything impeachable because there was nothing impeachable to witness. We are humoring the hostility, the sham, because we don't want to damage the constitution by denying process- but doing so is allowing the abuse of process, and that is doing worse damage.

Trump will not be destroyed here- The democrats are the ones fighting for survival and they are without question their own worst enemies. This game has been going on since Trump announced he was running, well over three years- and their score still sits at Zero. The fear and hate has overwhelmed common sense. Read my last posted thread- Why Trump is the keystone, and what the dems really fear.

 

The polls don't think like you do.
From FOX:
One most interesting..
Fifty percent told Fox News that Trump should be convicted and removed, and 44% said he should not. Registered voters' impeachment opinions largely fell along party lines, with 81% of Democrats favoring the president's removal and 84% of Republicans opposing it. Independents said Trump should be removed by a nearly 20-point margin, with 53% in favor of conviction and 34% opposed.

In every hypothetical matchup presented in the survey, voters preferred the Democratic candidate by various margins. Here is the breakdown:

• Biden 50%, Trump 41%
• Sanders 48%, Trump 42%
• Warren 47%, Trump 42%
• Buttigieg 45%, Trump 41%
• Bloomberg 49%, Trump 41%
• Klobuchar 43%, Trump 42%

Look at old Bloomberg.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/26/trump-impeachment-fox-news-poll/4581020002/

 

I do not see where Bolton has actually revealed anything. How about we wait until we see what he actually has before we jump the gun this time.
......mmmmkay?

 

who knows?? maybe Bolton will lie..maybe he wont

trump took out the Iranian general to make Bolton happy and not talk

before it is over I wont need to read boltons book, fox news will spin it to the public
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it does not matter what Bolton says or proves as fact

if he says he saw and heard trump specifically direct ole Rudy to go after Biden

if he says the motive was a political scheme to get re-elected and NOT investigating corruption

the sheep will call bolton a liar ..just as trump wants

trump and rudy knew if they could smear Biden now, he would not get the DNC nomination

and guess what?? mission is accomplished ...Bloomburg may be the nominee over Biden

the GOP says what trump did was not impeachable

they are changing the focus to biden successfully

why NOW has Bidens son become such a topic ?? why not back in 2014,15 ,16,17,18,19?

and the GOP had complete control of all 3 branches for 2 of those years

and nobody was worried about Biden or his son ..until now

and anybody notice how the tapes of Lev parnas is already old news??

the tapes have trump directly talking with parnas , more than once

and trump says he don't know the guy....and the sheep follow despite the recordings

but soon the shepherd will be gone ..one way or another

most sane people can see the truth

it is the things trump has done publicly that did him in ...

the republicans cannot stand the thought of another competent person in the whitehouse

trump is so stupid he makes them look smart

if trump was smart he would not be impeached

sadly, Obuma wiped the floor with the GOP

the sheep will follow trump till the end

but like trump, the sheep have no shame

Bolton will testify..even if he tells the truth and proves trumps guilt ,it wont matter one bit

 

They don't realize that this is already over. There was already an investigation into corruption in the Ukraine long before Biden ever announced.

I think they're positioning for the inevitable nothing that we all knew was going to happen with claims of cronyism among the Republicans. Which in and of itself is a knee-slapper.

So the question is when the verdict comes out and it's a complete exoneration, are they going to say he colluded with Cambodia, or Kazakhstan? Are they going to melt down again. Or will this be the final straw they snap out of the delirium and get their s*** in order?

I'm hoping for the latter but I won't hold my breath.

 

Democrats made this mistake last election. All this means is more people live in New York and California then the rest of the country.

 

Why is it leftists ignore reality in favor of obvious fiction? Many in the Obama admin, including Chris Heinz who quit doing business with his two college room mates over their "lapse in judgement" in taking the Burissma job. Burissma at the time was under investigation for money laundering, thought that association more than a bit iffy.