Is there something wrong with our children?

In searching Google I found that about 25% of the medical doctors in the United States were born in another country. I tried to find some statistic on computer/software technicians, but was not successful. I am pretty sure that 25 to 50% of Silicon Valley workers are not native Americans.

I am not criticizing these "immigrant" professionals. We would be in Hell of a mess without them. But, I am wondering why we need to import these professionals. We certainly do not export very many medical or computer professionals to other countries.

Either our children are not intelligent enough, or our educational system does provide the quality or opportunity for our children to grow into these professions. (I don't think our kids are that stupid.)

Obviously, the problem is in education. Better teachers, better schools, available college, more medical schools, and opportunity are needed. They all cost money, and that means taxes.

The question is - Are you willing to invest in the future of our children and our country?

 

The United States already out spends every nation on education. It is not a money issue, it is a liberal issue in are schools wasting time on sexual orientation issues and other issues that have nothing to do with reading, writing and arithmetic. We already have enough colleges, students are force into taking idiotic classes that have absolutely nothing to do with education. And far to many college kids treat college as their party years, instead of preparing for a career.

 

I agree that we are producing kids with problems. However, the real issues aren't that available education and opportunity is small- but that in motivations to excel are low.
The people that excel are usually driven from the inside- they want that achievement, expect it from themselves. They are more than willing to work hard for it.
It is human nature to take the easiest choices- but raising children is about teaching how to to be all you can be... not how to just get by.

Raising children IS a sort of construction job; we are BUILDING adults. It involves the values and behavior of those in the home and the circle of relatives or friends they encounter. It involves the need to set examples of character and discipline for the children to see and emulate. It involves the understanding that you are molding the character of your children everyday, by your own behavior.

If that is done correctly, by the time a child is of age, they no longer need parenting; they know how to support themselves, they know how to manage finances and affairs well enough to continue growing.
The need for supervision diminishes, but of course the love continues- and in healthy kids, the appreciation for the gift of independence and strength that comes from a solid home will last a lifetime, and they will always remember how their parents would have handled situations as they encounter them in their lives.

This is our short-coming today. Far too many children are born into conditions where that guidance can't exist- because until you have the power to control your own life, you certainly can't teach them to control theirs; and you have no business being a parent. You cannot give what you don't have. Many other nations have people who understand this process, and they raise children in a way that prepares them to excel, to be all they can be. It is selfish to do otherwise, and also impossible if you have no ability in yourself. Sadly- we are seeing a great deal of that, and the results are children who grow up unprepared to manage adult life, unequipped with the right values the motivation and moral strength to take advantage of all that is available to them.

This is what you missed in your question. Education requires good teachers- but it also requires students who want to learn, to understand, to accomplish- and that motivation comes from the home environment. Too many parents think that teachers can and should compensate for what they failed to do- unscrew their kids heads and pour in knowledge and understanding. It is parents who have abdicated their responsibilities, who had no interest in the quality of the environment that they created around their kids that are at the base of the problems we see in so many adults today.

 

I did some checking. The US does spend almost the most per student, but the other industrialized nations are rapidly catching up. As a % of GDP, the US was 58th on the list. And, between 2005 and 2015 our expenditure per student only went up 5% which is a lot less than inflation.

We can always find ways to be more efficient in spending our money/taxes, but we could obviously do better with education, and we definitely do not have enough medical schools (They are expensive.) to supply the necessary medical doctors. So our kids don't get to be doctors. We import them.

I am curious about the sexual orientation comment. Do you have any reliable figures on the time and expense spent on sexual orientation?

 

THE US IS DOOMED! We are lousy parents producing unmotivated, nonproductive kids. It sounds like we need more hard working, motivated immigrants and their children to keep the USA going. Maybe immigrants are the real answer for MAGA.

 

Pray tell. In a world where decades in investment in terms of funding and effort to build up a successful career, can easily be undone and erased by mere accusations of wrongdoing, even when it is proven the accusations were fabricated out of spite, what exactly is the motivating factor for anyone to try and make something of themselves? What is the motivation for one to become something noteworthy when all of the effort involved can ultimately become for naught in such a toxic environment? Careers and reputations are destroyed because accusations of wrongdoing are treated as if they were some holy gospel. Why should anyone feel motivation to become noteworthy when it can and ultimately will be turned against them by someone else motivated either by spite, or simply seeking a quick payout for efforts that are not their own?

 

So what you are saying is that because of the women's lib movement in the '70's forward and the rise of the PC culture, we are where we're at. Turns out single parenting isn't so great after all. Women, in fact, do need men.

 

My question is what's wrong with women

 

The problem is the AMA which severely restricts the number of students allowed in medical schools in order to keep medical fees high.

 

Investing in the future education of our children is paramount to avoiding the dilemma we see ourselves in today. It is not only fundamental to the survival of our standing in the world, but also the future of our country. We need to be preparing our children for a world that we are not yet even willing to accept is here already. We need to stop the madness of populism and get back to looking at facts rather than the lies and spin from the White House.

 

That and the stranglehold on residencies. The reason we need foreign doctors is because the AMA cartel is trying to strangle the number of native born ones.

 

I am totally unaware of the AMA having much influence over anything. The AMA certainly has failed at blocking immigrant doctors. Do you have a reliable source for this information about the AMA.

 

If the world were a perfect place, and everything was fair and just.... there would still be people looking for ways to improve our lives. It IS challenge that makes us care, makes us climb mountains and obstacles both in the real world and in ourselves.

The fact that some succeed is proof that others can succeed. That some are wealthy- is proof that others can become wealthy. I have known a substantial number of highly successful, wealthy people. There is something that all of them have in common- and that is that money is not the reward, it's just something on the scoreboard. The real payoff might be called an emotional paycheck, that only the person can write to themselves- the satisfaction of accomplishment. It's not dependent on recognition or what other people think, but on what they expect from themselves. Many of these people have failed many times- but they get up and try again, and they learn how to succeed from those failures. Few people ask them how they managed to do this, but they should. I have at every opportunity, and I've never been turned down. You have to ask respectfully, but the winners in life are happy to share their secrets with any who demonstrate the right attitude. These men value their time, they won't waste it on people looking for the easy button or the hot tip. We have a large number of people today that would be better, would be more successful and happier- if it was just easy to do.

Those who lack this motivation don't understand it, and look at life from the position and mindset they have now- and that is exactly what keeps them where they are; keeps them from seeing what they could achieve and finding the courage to go for it. Society isn't the primary cause for most people's mediocrity- they themselves are. They choose not to be more; they want the bar lowered so they will become winners without needing to excel.

I've long since tired of trying to motivate people who aren't hungry, but are greedy- they lack motivation from the inside; they generally just want something good to fall in their laps, or somebody else to pay their way, lift them up..... but they don't look to themselves for the answers. Waste of time to tell them how to become winners.

This is the difference that we build into our children from the day they are born- they are imprinted with the way we act, the way we treat each other..... we teach them just exist, or we can teach them to thrive.
There are two people to blame for mediocrity- The parents who set a poor example and made it acceptable, and the individual who lacked the motive to rise above that. Rejecting the responsibility for your own life and standards is something a person does to themselves. It's not the reward society gives you that matters- it's the reward you give yourself. If you can do that, society will do it as well.

 

Why would the AMA prefer foreign born doctors over the native ones? That makes no sense. The NRA has influence, not the AMA.

 

I'm saying children need parents. Good parents, solid people who understand what they are doing and aren't overwhelmed by their own lack of maturity or selfishness. Raising kids is not a hobby you do for entertainment or at your convenience.

 

They accredit medical schools. I am informed by medical students.

 

If the AMA accredits medical schools, that accreditation is no more significant than the NRA endorsing a gun company. The AMA has no legal status with medical schools. The AMA is a major lobbying force on the federal level and consistently conservative.

 

We don't have enough doctors or nurses,most senior citizen recuperation centers are staffed almost exclusively by women from either Haiti or the Dominican Republic, and thank God we have them. Rural hospitals all over America are closing up shop and going out of business resulting in longer distances for those needing care to travel. Maternal deaths for women giving birth in the USA are higher than most third world countries.

 

Kids don't get enough discipline. Not at home and not at school. When I was youngster I was drafted into the Army which certainly instilled discipline in my life. We might do well to re-institute the draft. Military service is an excellent experience. It teaches discipline, teamwork, love of country and honesty - all things I find deficient in some of today's kids.

 

It is quite significant as one cannot get a loan to attend an unaccredited medical school. And medical school is hideously expensive as I am sure you know.

 

According to the World Heath Organization (WHO):

19 September 2019

Key facts

• Every day in 2017, approximately 810 women died from preventable causes related to pregnancy and childbirth.
• Between 2000 and 2017, the maternal mortality ratio (MMR, number of maternal deaths per 100,000 live births) dropped by about 38% worldwide.
• 94% of all maternal deaths occur in low and lower middle-income countries.

While the US rate has more than doubled since 1987, drug overdose deaths increased from 6.1 per 100,000 standard population in 1999 to 21.7 in 2017- more than tripled.
Maternal deaths are strongly related to drug issues because of the relationship to addicts in poor health with terrible health practices becoming pregnant through using sex to support drug habits. Such people use drugs during pregnancies among other things, often deliver prematurely with no pre-natal care at all. The drug overdose death rate has been climbing at about 10% a year lately.

Drug addiction is not related to poor medical services, it is related to low self-respect, mental conditions and poor personal standards.
Our maternal deaths are not due to the same factors that you would find in third world countries such as poor health care and lack of medical personnel.

I think that a shortage of doctors and nurses could be directly related to working conditions- the tremendous burden of paperwork, the huge liability insurance costs, and the worlds densest population of lawyers eager to tell anyone that burped that they may be entitled to compensation if they just sue the nearest medical source. Doctors and nurses can no longer focus on helping and treating people- that's becoming a sideline to paperwork and defensive practice in their field.

 

Parents today cannot wait to sue school systems aka TAXPAYERS any time they feel a teacher has looked at their little Johnny or Joanie sideways.We need to get discipline back in to our schools and get some respect for their teachers who need to dress like responsible adults and behave accordingly.

 

The only thing wrong with our children is the public education system and colleges. They are filling our children full of radical left wing BS, and not teaching things they need to know.

 

Would such actually yield any worthwhile benefits, considering the majority of the youth of today qualify as being 4F?

 

The thing is not with schools or teachers but with our culture and how it develops or misdevelops our young people.

No order:

1) Our young people including young adults are not taught ever to defer gratification. Our culture emphasizes only the short term and never the long. This lack of patience and refusal to sacrifice the short term in favor of the long affects almost every aspect of people lives. From health to sexual morality to career decisions.

2) We do not emphasize that there is anything great about accomplishing something that is hard. We don't teach that there is glory in struggling to achieve.

There is something about the education culture though:

3) An extremely bad habit the education world has gotten is thinking of students as their "customers" Because of this the natural emphasis is that "the customer is always right". Thus there is too much emphasis on making sure students are happy. A very bad idea. Note this is probably one reason for the seeming rash of occurrences of sexual activity between students and teachers. When teachers think of students as "the customer" there is a natural tendency to think of those customers as moral equals to the instructor instead of children.

4) American parents have an ass backwards way of raising their children. They lavish too much attention on them when they are infants, toddlers and young children while tailing off dramatically when their children reach their teenage years. They years when they need the attention the most.