Coronavirus is killing Biden’s campaign and making him look like a fool.

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  1. LangleyMan

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    I didn't vote for Hillary.

    The polls were about 1% off, understandable given the last minute wiki release.
    Betting is not polling. I'll take the polls. Trump is now behind in some key states and this time he probably loses both the popular vote and electoral college.
     
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    We're supposed to have enough ventilators there is no chance of running out.
    He didn't say that he wouldn't lately.
    Trump blew the testing, failed to ramp up production of protective equipment, failed to ramp up production of ventilators, and now he's attacking desperate state governors.
    We'll have a demand problem because some of what we can produce won't be of as much interest to as many people, and employees who worked producing those goods and services won't have money. Biden is talking about filling that demand with spending on infrastructure.
     
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    They mean Trump is behind in the popular vote, and far enough behind he's probably coming up short in the electoral college, too.
    Of course not. It would be much more expensive to conduct polls on this basis.
    The poll aggregators used the popular vote polls to make guesses.
    This is beside the point.
    I didn't support or vote for Hillary.
    Trump won't have a hope in hell if this place turns into another Italy.
     
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    Trump was informed enough to close travel to China and Europe. Biden/Obama never did that with H1N1 that originated in Mexico, had they done that maybe 12,000+ people didn't all have to die. Biden/Obama were Deer in the headlights.....Biden still is.
     
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    Biden is a real afterthought.
     
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    Boy, that post is a pile of denial. I guess hope still prevails that Biden will win if more people will just die.
     
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    Oh noes! The propaganda wing of the DNC is dying!
    Who will screech nonstop about the Orange Man's badness now?
     
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    How is what I wrote "denial?" The Presidential opinion polls in 2016 were fairly accurate, but poll aggregators like Nate Silver took them a step further--and a step too far--and predicted the Electoral College result.

    I think Trump's future will be determined by how we do against COVID-19. It is beginning to look like British Columbia in Canada is "bending the curve" and may escape having their hospital system overwhelmed. Trump will likely be crucified if Canada escapes the worst of it and we don't. OTOH, if we don't lose hundreds of thousands, or even millions, Trump could win reelection.

    Me? I'd rather be lucky than good. Let's hope we find an effective treatment and then develop a vaccine.
     
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    Yeah, the letter D is going to save you regardless of who is wearing it. Sounds like a brilliant idea. Smh.
     
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    You ignored the fact that the polls you presented aren't reflective of the electoral college and even told me why they weren't but then continue to push the narrative that based on them Biden will win.

    Canada STRICTLY enforces their immigration laws while liberals do everything in their power to discourage enforcement of our immigration laws. That's a non winning issue.

    Nate Silver used to have his stuff together until he got bought out by NBC via ESPN. Now he's just another political hack that gets it wrong, just like he did in 2016.
     
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    The numbers of media are irrelevant. Trump has to stop screwing up if he wants to make sure he survives.
     
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    The same applies to the letter "R." Are you a Trumper?
     
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    Irrelevant? Poppycock.

    It's says right there in the headline, those leftist journalists are needed the most. That has to be true, because the leftist media would never report a mistruth.
     
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    C'mon--you're smarter than that. We know the Electoral College favors Trump, but not to the point that he can win if he's seven or more points behind in opinion polls.
    .CANADIAN HAT ON
    Canada has a points system that serves it well. My wife and I (born and raised in the USA) were admitted to Canada as immigrants based on their points system and picked up a second citizenship.

    As for how tight they are...? Not tight enough, but miles ahead of this country which has been driven by employers wanting cheap labor for decades.
    .CANADIAN HAT OFF
    Talkin' trash? Silver gave Trump a 28.6% chance of winning is his final forecast.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

    As someone who has conducted political polls as part of running local elections, I'm not impressed by how aggregators like Silver have marketed their results--or how those results are used by news outlets or by individuals rooting for a particular candidate.
     
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    You have been misinformed. Google: "the parol evidence rule" "real estate" for guidance.

    The DP's Big Lie election strategy is now fully exposed and failing - again.

    NEWSTIMES, Michael Cohen's lawyer has done real damage to the case against Trump, By Aaron Blake, The Washington Post Published 3:06 pm EDT, Monday, August 27, 2018.
    https://www.newstimes.com/news/article/Michael-Cohen-s-lawyer-has-done-real-damage-to-13185791.php
     
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    That's a better chance than Silver gave Trump last time. But I think all bets are off what with this virus.
     
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    Try to read more carefully, and Google: "bribery". It might help.

    "In December 2013, the same month the fund was officially established, Hunter joined his father and one of his daughters on a trip to China. There, Hunter met up with Jonathan Li, the fund's China-based partner. The New Yorker reported that Li met Hunter at his hotel and shook hands with the vice president. Days after the start of the trip, Hunter had officially joined BHR's board, the Washington Post reports, raising questions about whether he had used his father's access for his own personal benefit."
    CNN, Fact-checking Trump's claims about the Bidens in China, By Tara Subramaniam, October 4, 2019.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/fact-check-trump-bidens-china/index.html
     
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    What is the statute of limitations on bribery?

    "Here's what we know:
    A company, whose board Hunter Biden sat on, received a large investment of Chinese capital shortly after Hunter Biden visited the country with his father.
    According to the New York Times, Biden's son Hunter has a 10% interest in BHR Partners, a private-equity fund that the Chinese government-owned Bank of China has invested in. As of May 2019, both The New York Times and the Washington Post reported that Hunter had not received any money from the fund or in connection with his role as an unpaid advisory board member.
    In July 2019, more than two years after his father left office, Hunter purchased an equity stake in the BHR fund, valued around $430,000, according to the Washington Post."
    CNN, Fact-checking Trump's claims about the Bidens in China, By Tara Subramaniam, October 4, 2019.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/fact-check-trump-bidens-china/index.html
     
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    Trump got one thing right and just about everything else wrong. Not good enough.

    It looks like Canada is starting to "bend the curve" before they run out of hospital beds. If they don't run out and we do, Trump will be in trouble. It doesn't matter if Biden isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Voters choose hope over despair and Trump will represent despair if a lot of people die.

    As disgusting as Trump is as a person, I hope with fingers and toes crossed we get out of this one without a disaster and that maggot benefits in November.
     
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    Nate was wrong because Trump 100% won. It's like saying a woman is only half pregnant. She is either pregnant or she isn't. He didn't 28.6 percent win. Nate wasn't even 71.4% wrong. He was 100% wrong.
     
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    Show me a link where Biden says he changed his mind and now supports a travel Ban.

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/1...erican-lives-with-travel-bans-like-trump-did/

    He wants no travel restrictions & the CDC has said that the Travel Ban has helped.

    Also tell me how Biden’s idea of funding the Green new deal and student loan forgiveness in the next stimulus will have any impact on the virus.
     
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    How did those Polls work out for you in 2016?
    :roflol:

    Didn’t you say you would leave this forum if Trump got elected?

    Why are you still here?

    Vegas betting odds are not partisan.
    The betting odds were even in mid March, but Trumps handling of the coronavirus has helped him while Biden has slipped a little because of his recent barrage of new gaffes.

    Trump has a lead in the betting odds

    https://www.vegaselectionodds.com/
     
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    :roflol:

    The Same "Oddsmakers" who had Hillary as a "Sure Thing"?

    Got it. :bored:

    You have just constructed an "argument" totally defeating the "point" that you were attempting to make.:roflol:

    Anyway, anybody can "predict" anything at this point.

    No one can be proven wrong until Election Night.

    So, "predict" away. Be my guest.

    In any event, coronavirus ISN'T "killing" Biden's Campaign.
     
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    You have a point, the betting odds were as wrong as you in 2016, but they are not partisan in anyway, so I trust them more than your opinion or the polls.

    Biden is hurting his campaign far more than the coronavirus. Although I can’t see his idea of Funding the Green new deal and student loan forgiveness in the next Stimulus helping him.

    Didn’t you say you would leave this forum if Trump got elected?

    Why didn’t you leave after Hillary lost ?
    :roflol:
     
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