Climate Change: You can deny, but you can't hide.

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    It’s impossible to follow science for the GOP. Science contradicts most if not all of the positions needed for the gop donors to extract more money from the citizenry at their expense.
     
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    Didn't say that you did. I said that you are parroting, and are denying science... I understand the confusion though, as I didn't use a comma to separate them in my other comment. My bad.

    Not necessarily.
     
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    It is a thread of people expressing their views, and perchance those may not align with yours, does not mean they, or you are wrong. Assuming you have the right of it, is pretentious and shows a limited view.

    Once can be as healthy as one can be, that doesn't mean they are either liberal or conservative, but the main point is you placing some sort of value of physical attributes, as though it makes one person better than another. That is as shallow as a person could be. So, those with disabilities are lesser, because they aren't faster, stronger?

    No, liberals don't have an advantage in the law of the jungle. Individuals who hone their skills do, and it's not necessarily a physical skill. You have much to learn about people.
     
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  4. dagosa

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    Small pox, polio and other diseases have ebbed out of the public mind as soon as a vaccine made them less relevant. The inability of the public to react to history has always made them susceptible to the bogus ideas of the right.
     
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    In a world where those diseases had been eradicated, why continue to vaccinate folks? The ONLY answer is that our liberal folks are intent on continuing to allow folks who haven't been vaccinated, or for that matter even tested for those diseases easy access into this country. Why? Because every time there is an outbreak, it drives the herd vaccination narrative, more, it places the yoke of governmental weight squarely back on the shoulders of those who it frankly should have been removed from. So, periodically, those diseases must be allowed to infect folks in the US.

    Think about that for a minute. We, as a nation, must vaccinate the ENTIRE population of our nation because liberals don't want to ensure the safety of folks from other parts of the world who they allow to travel here without having proof of those same vaccinations. Oh, and likely, anyone reminding folks of this will be termed racists... why? because they can. It's they way they bully folks these days.
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just add a donation box to everyone's income tax return form, then they will be free to donate as their conscious dictates.
     
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    Which parts of my lengthy explanation did you disagree with, and why?
     
  8. dagosa

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    I answered that three times. Just because you think you know how the ozone layer is formed, does not give any proof you know how it is damaged,
    You prove nothing other then saying you know more then MIT and every other environmental research facility in the world. Funny....but really strange.
     
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    No you haven't. You think that "nuh uh" is a counterargument. It is not.

    Which parts of my lengthy explanation did you disagree with, and why?
     
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    I disagree with your claim that you are right and 3400 universities are wrong and every govt agency is wrong
     
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    The warming of the oceans has been more consistant than the warming of the air temps.
     
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    lacks the historical context necessary to draw a credible conclusion.
     
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    I'm just pointing out how scientists are measuring the warming of the planet as so many seem to think they are measuring air temps and weather conditions. Measuring air temps and weather conditions is not very consistant but the rise of water temps has been consistant since the scientists starting measuring ocean temps.
     
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    Air temperatures are more subject to local, short term and variable conditions. While longterm air temp averages are worth tracking, ocean water temperatures are moderated over time into consistent trends. With the earths surface covered in 71% water, it seems reasonable that climate changes on earth is more a accurately tracked using the oceans temps.
     
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    LOL, now science is based on your belief about politics. Fascinating.
     
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    Which science? The science that fits your dogma or the science that doesn’t?
     
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    .....and the left.
     
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    The left at least gives science a try. The tooth fairy, conspiracy theories and wishful thinking is no way to govern. .
     
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    My dogma ? There is only one science. The one practiced and taught at every university in the world and accredited research facilities. The right goes not practice science, just gibberish.
     
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    Don’t call what you do, science. It’s crappolla.
     
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    You mean ignore inconvenient science to the dogma.
     
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    Can you put that into any kind of perspective? Would you assert that temps rising is indicative of a here to fore never before seen phenomenon? And if you are, how can you possible document that factually? If you are asserting that somehow your approach here is "scientific", you'd be wrong...
     
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    H:mm... so in your opinion, only the surface temp of the ocean is important to you? What happens at depth? Do you know? And here's why this is actually important. Unlike the atmosphere, life exists at all depths in the oceans. If, as you suggest, variation is the killer because of the subjectiveness, then explain why you left the variability of temps at depth out.
     
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    Ok, so scientists might be able to demonstrate the "warming" in hundredths of a degree. Can you feelz that?
     
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    Do they? Can you perhaps provide some examples???
     
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