I can understand why the police act the way they act

Unsupportable nonsense.

 

I can agree in general that the police might feel that way. I've seen commentary both ways, though. Many police accept that armed people also reduce crime. The real question has always been two parts- how do keep firearms away from criminals, and then- how do keep a criminal from not using any of the other multitudes of weapons available. A violent person may prefer a gun, but the lack of one does nothing to reduce his criminal motivation- at best, it changes his tactics.

 

Is it?

What you said

What I said:

So yeah, you said it.

 

This just isn’t true. Everyone has guns where I live. Had a county deputy stop me at 1:00 am a couple years ago for a trailer light out. I was picking up irrigation pipe so we could harvest a field later that morning. I had an AR-15 with a suppressor sitting on the pickup seat basically under my right arm. He wanted to know what kind of suppressor I had and if I was hunting that year as it was deer season. He was alone, no vest, 20 miles from dispatch and backup and a 1:00 am stop of a guy with an AR under his arm didn’t make him a bit nervous.

The main concealed carry instructor in my immediate area is a career highway patrol officer. His goal is to see more armed citizens. He spends his weekends making it happen.

It is a mistake to project the poor behavior of citizens in your area onto people in other places. Guns are not the issue.

 

99.9% of the police are not racist.

They are being portrayed as racist to advance the leftist cause.

 

I bet more of them will be after this.

 

And yet Philandro Castillo (a black man) was legally carrying...informed the officer that pulled him over...and was shot.

Odd that it didn't happen to you huh? Oh ...you're white

 

Also odd it didn’t happen to the 10’s of thousands of blacks pulled over every year

 

But it DOES happen...far too often

 

If any group of people act obnoxious enough, they will find themselves in a position of prejudice- because they earned it.

 

If you were in Germany and posted crime rates demeaning a class of people (even if it is fact), the police would be knocking on your door to arrest you. England too. Heck most of Europe....they don't have free speech.

 

No it happens less than 1/1000th

 

ONCE..is too many

Tamir Rice...a 12 year old kid...is shot because he had an air soft gun...in a state where open carry is allowed.

What is that?

 

So you are admitting it isn’t guns that are the problem?

You disagree with the OP and believe the problem is racism? Even though Castillo (a black man) was shot by a Hispanic who was acquitted by a jury including two black jurors? Your premise that cops shoot or don’t shoot people because of their race is just false. I know you aren’t after facts, but here’s a pretty good study that may help bring you back to reality.
https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877

You guys really need to stop projecting the racism and violence bred in your jungles onto others. It makes your arguments look ridiculous.

The above paragraphs should not be interpreted as support for police brutality. We had a young (white) man shot and killed very unnecessarily by law enforcement in our community recently. I’m not happy about it and I’m not happy about Castillo or Floyd being killed. But racism isn’t the main problem any more than guns are.

 

A utopian preview of the US unless the globalist and more importantly, their agenda has to have a stop put to it. They were all equal, but some were more equal than others....

 

Are you suggesting we can ever actually reach zero?

 

Are you still operating under the delusion that only blacks are killed by police? Whites are killed at a higher rate than blacks. Stop with the false narrative.

Take a look if you like.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/national/police-shootings-2019/

 

You can stop with your indoctrinated BS because over the past few weeks conservatives all across America have been demonstrating their authoritarian nature. But then we all knew that all along, didn't we. I've always figured that the reason conservatives always seem so confused is because they hate what they are. It is why they are always accusing others of being what they are in such a derogatory way.

It is kind of sad when the worse insult a conservative can level at a liberal is to accuse them of being like a conservative.

 

It is why the protests are primarily about police brutality. It isn't that the police once again unnecessarily killed a black man, but that the police once again unnecessarily killed a person.

What is more disturbing is that many police and police departments around the country responded to protests against police brutality with more brutality. ACAB

 

I usually ignore him as he seems to live in another world. It is quite common for him to post something, and then when someone replies to claim the responder is responding to something unrelated to what he just posted, even though it clearly is relevant. Then he gets on his high horse.

 

So why do you need a gun to get irrigation pipe? Is it that scary in your neck of the woods? I lived in the Colorado Rockies for thirty years where it was not all that unusual to run into a bear or mountain lion, an occasional rattler. Never felt a need to carry a gun.

I grew up on a farm in northeastern Ohio. Can't say I ever saw anyone out plowing their fields with a firearm at their side. Can't see why there would ever be the need, unless one was doing something illegal.

 

I think that gun culture coupled with a growing police state is the problem. They have even been arming park rangers, many who would rather not be armed. If one looks at television and movie offerings one sees that a rather large number center around a law enforcement officer, typically cast as a hero who openly breaks the law and violates the civil rights of the accused.

 

Or this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Tamir_Rice

12 year old boy shot by police while playing with a toy gun. Of course, he was African American. Of course, the mistake was that he removed the orange cap, indicating that it was a toy gun. It seems that there is a double standard as to who is allowed to carry a gun without being immediately assumed to be a criminal by police.

 

Show evidence that armed people reduce crime. If that were the case, the US should have very little crime compared to Germany, where almost nobody is armed. Yet, the stats don't seem to support that notion:

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Germany/United-States/Crime

Violent crime > Murder rate per million people
Germany 8.44 Ranked 79th.
US 42.01 Ranked 43th. 5 times more than Germany

Violent crime > Rapes per million people
Germany 94.45 Ranked 24th.
US 274.04 Ranked 9th. 3 times more than Germany

Now, I give you that the petty crime rate seems to be half in US compared to Germany.

 

Now watch these people say the FBI report can't be trusted because.....

Also watch the news. But don't believe your lying eyes. Never! It isn't a majority of crazed looters, they're FREEDOM FIGHTERS! Thieving scum of the earth is much closer, regardless of the race. Leftists insist we view these riots as a white-vs-black issue and not decent-vs-filth. That argument left town on the midnight bus.

Black poverty pimps like Sharpton and others claim it's racist to want peace and quiet, and law and order. Democrat voters want more looting---they say so in videos. Democrat OFFICIALS say nothing but wear the colors of Ashanti slavers as they try to get up from kneeling in homage to the violence.

The left seriously expects us to believe these rioters deserve anything but arrest, trial and speedy incarceration. But the Donkey need those votes, so to appease the Hero of Crown Heights and other black poverty pimps, the DNC will not speak out against black violence.

All racism is one-sided, to them. Nothing is ever self-created, it's always done despite white oppression. The black business owners who struggled for years to make better lives now really and truly hate your sorry selves for your shortsightedness.