Sweden'S Cronovirus Strategy Will Soon be the World's

Don't leave hand sanitizer in your vehicle in the sun:



https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loc...es-vehicle-fire-in-suburban-waukegan/2292109/

Expensive repair, probably new dashboard plus more.

But probably killed all novel coronavirus in the car.

 

he gave you deaths per million, which is the death rate. Sweden is 500 per million, five times higher than Denmark and ten times higher than Finland and Norway (averaging out the two nations). Sweden has over 5000 deaths from a population of around 10 million. Those three nations combined have about 1200 cases from 15 million people. Sweden has thus far avoided a 'second wave' by not managing to end the first wave.

Oh, and Sweden's economy has been thumped too, so thus far no upside.

Any vaguely sensible assessment of Sweden (which means any view not clouded by ideology) shows that its strategy has been a costly failure.

 

It is censorship, but you rationalize it away as something else, cognitive dissonance in play.

 

There you go again. Dissing your own experts.

"WHO lauds lockdown-ignoring Sweden as a 'model' for countries going forward
Just last month, the World Health Organization warned that lifting coronavirus lockdowns was the “last thing” countries needed. Shutdowns, it insisted, “are the best way to suppress and stop transmission.”

Or maybe not. Dr. Mike Ryan, WHO’s top emergencies expert, suggests learning from Sweden — which never shut down completely — as a *** “model”*** for battling the coronavirus."

"Ryan sees “lessons to be learned” from the way Sweden “has very much relied on its relationship with its citizenry and the ability and willingness of its citizens to implement self-distancing and self-regulate.”
NEW YORK POST, The World Health Organization’s Swedish flip-flop, By Post Editorial Board April 30, 2020. (*** mine)
https://nypost.com/2020/04/30/the-world-health-organizations-swedish-flip-flop/

 

I'll stick with the facts, thank you. You can have Furgie.

 

Calling that a "flip flop" is highly misleading and PURPOSEFULLY so.

Ryan hoped that a population like that of Sweden would follow elected leadership on distancing, etc.,, thus making actual legal restrictions less necessary.

I would hope that too. I mean, there is no chance it would work in America, but it seems like it could work in countries where the population respects their government and the government is capable of projecting what behavior experts say is desireable.

The fact that someone in WHO hoped that would work isn't a flip flop.

And, the fact that it failed in Sweden isn't a flip flop OR a knock on WHO. What it shows is that WHO seriously considers local methods.

 

Read again:

"Dr. Mike Ryan, WHO’s top emergencies expert, suggests learning from Sweden — which never shut down completely — as a *** “model”*** for battling the coronavirus." (*** mine)

Too subtle?

 

I will stick with "Dr. Mike Ryan, WHO’s top emergencies expert, suggests learning from Sweden — which never shut down completely — as a *** “model”*** for battling the coronavirus."

Of course, I know that Lockdown fascism has been justified with Professor Neil Ferguson's projections even now that he has admitted that he was wrong.

"Professor Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College London, revealed he had the 'greatest respect' for the Scandinavian nation, which has managed to suffer fewer deaths per capita than the UK.

He made the comments at a House of Lords Science and Technology Committee today during his first public appearance since flouting stay at home rules to have secret trysts with his married mistress last month.

The epidemiologist - dubbed Professor Lockdown - has come under fire for his modelling which predicted half a million Britons could die from Covid-19 and heavily influenced the UK's decision to rush into a nationwide quarantine."
THE DAILY MAIL, Neil Ferguson whose grim warnings prompted Boris Johnson to order TOTAL LOCKDOWN admits Sweden may have suppressed Covid-19 to the same level but WITHOUT draconian measures,
Professor admitted there is lessons to be learned from Sweden moving forward
Sweden dodged major crisis without locking down and seeing economy implode,
Professor Ferguson's team predicted staggering amount of UK deaths in March
Modelling thought to have single-handedly shocked UK into imposing lockdown,
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Ferguson-admits-greatest-respect-Sweden.html

 

He discusses facts you don't like to talk about.

 

The thinking Left is beginning to catch onto the scam.

"The left should be interested in protecting working class and marginalised people and shielding them from economic hardship and exploitation, first and foremost. However, by many reasonable projections, these lockdown policies are delivering us into the worst economic depression in world history, and this will certainly negatively affect working class and marginalised people more than anyone else. Small businesses are being swallowed up by the thousands by large multinational corporations like Amazon (very much like a novel virus, sweeping through our populations and killing off the weakest among us), and automation has now taken on a whole new impetus for these companies. There will be few jobs left to return to for those furloughed by this lockdown, and there will be no resources to invest in worthy left-wing causes such as better public healthcare and vaccines, renewable energy systems, public transport, universal basic income, upskilling of the workforce, etc."
LOCKDOWN SCEPTICS, The Left-Wing Case Against Lockdowns, By Mr Alexis FitzGerald, 14 May 2020.
https://lockdownsceptics.org/the-left-wing-case-against-lockdowns/

The DP screws the poor and the working class and thinks it will hurt Trump.

When will they ever learn?

 

Shut downs will end the 2nd week of November .

 

They can't learn until they understand.

 

The Lockdown Governors and Mayors who ordered patients with the Wuhan Virus moved from hospitals to nursing homes should be given a chance to explain their actions to grand juries.

Ditto all the hospital officials who ordered staff to mix infected patients with patients who were not infected.

"Every week of lockdown that goes by is digging us further into a deep hole of economic turmoil which will take us years to get out of. The evidence for the efficacy of lockdowns is simply not forthcoming, and therefore the policy is utterly unjustified – however much we may imagine it to be. Lockdowns were first instituted when we had no hard evidence to hand, only models (which have since turned out to be wildly out of sync with reality), and the policy has not been re-evaluated in any serious scientific way since this time."
LOCKDOWN SCEPTICS, The Left-Wing Case Against Lockdowns, By Mr Alexis FitzGerald, 14 May 2020.
https://lockdownsceptics.org/the-left-wing-case-against-lockdowns/

 

If you have an issue with what I said, then just say it.

 

Hospitals are not allowed to kick out patients who can't complete their recovery on their own. And, those who have had COVID often need significant recovery time.

With hospital beds in sort supply, one challenge as been to figure out where to put these folks while they compelte their recoverty. One optinon has been nursing homes.

I suspec there have also been places where hospital beds just haven't been available - so other solutions have had to be found.

Suggesting our profound lack of preparedness maes these efforts criminal is a little over the top, don't you think?

Sure.

This is the cute trick of using the word "model" to claim that science should be ignored. All science uses models - making it a versitile argument!

 

The Governors, Mayors and hospital officials who ordered patients infected with the Wuhan Virus to be mixed in with the uninfected should tell that whopper to grand juries, and eventually to criminal trial juries.

The science is still be ignored. This lockdown has always been all about Fake Political Science and election year political expediency.

"Dr. Mike Ryan, WHO’s top emergencies expert, suggests learning from Sweden — which never shut down completely — as a *** “model”*** for battling the coronavirus."

"Ryan sees “lessons to be learned” from the way Sweden “has very much relied on its relationship with its citizenry and the ability and willingness of its citizens to implement self-distancing and self-regulate.”
NEW YORK POST, The World Health Organization’s Swedish flip-flop, By Post Editorial Board April 30, 2020. (*** mine)
https://nypost.com/2020/04/30/the-world-health-organizations-swedish-flip-flop/

 

I keep doing that. Key words: "WHO", "expert" "model".

"Dr. Mike Ryan, WHO’s top emergencies expert, suggests learning from Sweden — which never shut down completely — as a *** “model”*** for battling the coronavirus." (*** mine)

Does that help?

 

You'll notice how they never try to defend the argument with the numbers and how they like to truncate the discussion.



It's like Ryan is watching Trump screw it up --- again.

 

One look at Tulsa should tell you Ryan's model won't work in the US.
https://nypost.com/2020/04/29/who-lauds-sweden-as-model-for-resisting-coronavirus-lockdown/

 

1000+ crew members tested positive for the novel coronavirus on the USS Theodore Roosevelt. One crew member died. Cap'n panicked and end ran the chain of command.

COVID-19 is not a very lethal disease at all.

 

Of courese that doesn't work.

I gave a perfectly sound explanation.

Between you and the NYPost you really tried to put a negative spin on the simple fact that WHO is more than intereted in looking for successes that could be spread.

How the can you object to that?

 

Absolutely.

And, they like to point to one factor (masks, isolation or whatever) and then deride that one factor for not being a universal solution in and of iteself.

 

120,000 dead says you're wrong

It kills very few military age people...but infecting 1,000 out of what...3400?

The Captain was absolutely correct

 

Sweden's response has been an abject failure that probably cost 4,000 lives and did NOT save their economy

 

The experts lied.

"Given that national lockdowns have never before been attempted and are so extreme in nature, the onus falls upon governments implementing them to provide overwhelming and inarguable evidence and data to justify this policy and to prove its efficacy beyond any reasonable doubt. However, it is clear that governments and public health officials have completely failed us in this regard. You just have to take a look at the Worldometers data for Covid-19 that anyone can access in order to make comparisons between different countries to see how our governments and public health officials have failed."
LOCKDOWN SCEPTICS, The Left-Wing Case Against Lockdowns, By Mr Alexis FitzGerald, 14 May 2020.
https://lockdownsceptics.org/the-left-wing-case-against-lockdowns/