So the lay offs coming up may not qualify for unemployment?

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  1. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    In March Covid-19 caused lay offs and folks got gov assistance. But when corporations fire folks due to under performing that doesn't get unemployment because they weren't doing a good job. Or so it's been explained to me. Anybody care to comment on this?
     
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    In general, most states offer you up to 6 months of UI.

    If you go back to work and the company lays you off, and you have already exhausted your UI, then yes, you'd be out of luck. That is why they are debating extensions on Capitol Hill.
     
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    I was under the impression that if you are fired from a job then you can get unemployment, but if you quit your job then you can't claim unemployment. I'm not sure if that is the same way everywhere or not. I'm from New York state.
     
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    This is true.
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    Isn't it fired for a good reason?
     
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    Get fired for cause here and you're SOL. Laid off you're fine.
     
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    If you are fired for cause you are not eligible for UI

    You can however request a hearing to see if the employer actually HAD cause to fire you. If you win that hearing you are eligible
     
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    If you fire an employee for cause, they can still collect unemployment.

    The only difference, at least in illinois, is that it is not charged back to the employer against their premium.
     
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    That has ALWAYS been the case. You cannot collect unemployment if you are fired for cause. A layoff is something different.
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm.
     
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    Trump won't sign any bill that extends unemployment I thought I heard

    I suppose if they add in a perk for the mega corps, he may change his mind though
     
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    That's how it works.
    Else, people will abuse the system.
     
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    With so many employers in recent years wanting to avoid giving employees benefits many employees today are 1099 emloyees wrho have no Federal Tax withheld just Social Security & Medicare.....does anyone know if they are eligible for unemployment ??
     
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    That is correct, at least here in CA.

    The only time they do not pay for UI is if you quit without just cause, and there maybe just cause in today's environment if you feel your employer was not being cautious with Covid rules, but that would require a hearing for you to make your case.

    The only times getting fired will not get you UI is if you're fired for insubordination, job abandonment, or something big. If you're in sales, not meeting your sales quota is common, so they will pay. Much of it depends on if your employer just wants to f*** with you. Small employers get dinged everytime they get UI claims and their premiums rise. If the state sees an employer constantly letting people go and contesting UI claims, then they will get investigated.
     
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    Generally no, but the stimulus bill did allow for gig workers to collect UI. Whether or not they will be included in the next stimulus package is yet to be seen.
     
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    That's why I'm so furious at how this moron of a POTUS is screwing everything up. This buffoon has got to GO!
     
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    Not here in my state. A 1099 withholds nothing. You have to pay your SS and the employer withholds nothing.
     
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    It depends on your state rules, but in CA, you can.
     

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