Mask Denier Tx. Rep. Louie Gohmert tests positive for Covid

I think you are confused

I didn't say a mask was effective at that.

I think you've got me confused with another poster.

My position is the effectiveness of a mask is debatable.

 

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So you're reduced to pee wee Herman comebacks.

It's like debating a five-year-old with you sometimes.

 

Look... Let's be clear. You don't! If at this point you didn't even know that masks are not meant to protect the wearer, you are so way behind that it would be a waste of time trying to discuss the pandemic with you. Any child who is in Elementary School and up learned this very early on in this crisis.

So if you didn't know something this basic, there is a huge body of information that came after this, and that is public knowledge. Obviously you are too far behind on this to ever catch up.

People who have not understood the pandemic are the ones keeping us in the pandemic. Unfortunately for Trump, most of them are supporters of his. But it's also unfortunate for the rest of us, because this is the type of ignorance that will keep the number of infected and the number of dead increasing for who knows how long. And, of course, the financial woes that this entails which we all suffer.

 

~ You make a good point. However the truth would also work. There are things he could suggest that would actually be more helpful. Instead we are learning ourselves. Fauci is useless and politically motivated. Not good ...

 

But the CDC never speaks to us like adults, they have lied that masks didn't work, then told us to wear gloves, then told us gloves don't work, and then they say masks "prevent" spread of the virus. They lie and misrepresent the facts, because they think we are too stupid to comprehend or make our own decisions.

I think Fauci's motivation is to make himself look good. The guy had been in federal service for decades, and suddenly his name is on everyone's lips, and he's constantly on TV, radio, podcasts. Fauci likes to sound important, to be seen as the singular world's expert who has all the answers. He's on an ego trip.

 

~ This is likely sad but true ...

 

So here's the thing. If I'm not infected, why wear a mask? It I am infected, no problem. What you have, and continue to write doesn't say that though. Wha you continue to say is that everyone must wear a mask. Why? If we who aren't infected aren't protecting anyone, why wear one at all?

The original observation is quite on point here. You continue to demand everyone wear a mask. You contend that its so the virus doesn't infect others, but frankly you've written too many times that there is some prophylactic benefit of those who aren't infected wearing them, which, again, is demonstrably untrue. And yet, you continue to tell everyone (including those who won't be protected) to wear them anyway. Your messaging is as conflicted as your logic.

 

Because you have no way of knowing that you are not infected. There are other reasons, but this one alone should be obvious with only a brief pause to think about it.

My God! Do we have to explain to you even the most basic concepts when they are just a matter of common sense? I've seen this explained even on Fox. Not by the star disinformation and ignorance peddlers of the network, like Hannity or Tucker Carlson, of course. But I watch Fox (as well as other wingnut media) once in a while. And even they explained this months ago.

 

I think the argument is, if you do not feel any symptoms of the virus, are you virus free, or could you be an active carrier who could spread the disease?

Or look at it this way, if some stranger feels sick, and unknowingly has contagious COVID, and refuses to wear a mask, and them he sneezes in your face, even you are wearing an awesome N95 mask, the saliva or phlegm still gets in tour eyes, boom, you're infected.

I believe the gov't is pushing the masks on people, to try to ensure no one can be sneezing or spitting saliva into people's eyes. But then, now that I think of it, I can think back as far as 10 years and not recall anyone doing that to me. It's so rare as to be an extremely minor concern, much less a major concern forcing people, with the threat of a $200 fine for not wearing a mask at work, 40 hours a week.

 

The smartest people in the country, including fauci and democrats, told me the mask made no difference for weeks. When did they discover this absolute knowledge that masks help? It took these geniuses weeks to discover that? They are really smart and were supposedly working hard. Why weeks? I don't believe a word any of them say...

 

Your circular arguments are beyond tedious

Your issue with masks is not that they work to prevent infected people unknowingly spreading disease to others...it's that that was ALSO a claim that masks give "some" protection to the wearer?

The fact that they help stop the spread is ENOUGH.

That they also protect the wearer to some degree is a BONUS...not a reason to reject masks

 

Or fabrication if need be

 

It is extremely rare to see people coughing
more frequently they pollute surfaces with dirty masks.
masks are more dangerous then no masks.

 

Can you provide a link to studies done proving your claim?

 

Arizona Congressman Raúl Manuel Grijalva (D) tested positive on Saturday for Covid. His staff blames Republicans for given him the cooties. Couldn't possibly be because his state, like Texas and every other state which shares a border with Mexico, has had a huge spike in cases since June.

 

If people are getting infected while everyone is wearing mask, that means that virus is spreading without masks as well.

 

So no link to studies showing masks are more dangerous than no mask??? Got it.

 

You can deny the reality all you want, but people are wearing dirty masks. They do not change them every two hours.
If you want to know more Google is your friend.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150422121724.htm

 

Mexico got their increase of cases from the US

 

Right...the study you provided was in regards to healthcare workers wearing cloth masks. You know, the people who are far more exposed to the virus. Healthcare workers don’t wear the same masks for four weeks like in the study that was done. Sorry, but the link is an epic fail.

 

Tyson foods: 10k of 120k employees infected!

Mask required to work since early April...

 

How so? Mexico's virus situation is far more critical than any U.S. state.

Do you live in a border state? Most of the Texas Mexican-Americans at the border have relatives who are Mexican citizens and residents, if not dual-citizenship. Mexicans flood the U.S. emergency rooms for care. People at the U.S. border to not go to Mexico for treatment.

 

The virus spread because people were NOT wearing masks. They let it get out of control and are suffering for it

Here in NY mask wearing is near universal and the virus is pretty well under control