Trump now supports Vote by Mail. But... Only in Florida!!!

Yep! you heard that right. Trump believes that, in Florida, postal workers won't lose votes. Nobody will cast a vote using somebody else's name. Oh... and of course, in Florida there are no illegal aliens.



I wonder, don't Trump supporters have a distinct feeling that they are being used?

They should, because they are. There is absolutely nothing that could happen in any other state with vote by mail that could not happen in Florida. Which is absolutely nothing.

But, of course, somebody just told Trump that in Florida, a huge majority of Republicans cast their vote by mail. And he was making them weary of doing it this time. Which meant that they would have had to actually go to a voting place, where they would face the voter intimidation and all the other tactics that Trump and DeSantis have put in place to supprees the vote.

Really? Don't Republicans feel just a bit embarrassed.... All the effort to come up with strawman and fake arguments, to justify "The Idol's" blanket condemnation of vote by mail. All gone to waste.

And now they have to come up with some way to make people believe that we Floridians are more intelligent than the rest of the country. I'm flattered, but now we'r not.

Don't worry. Tucker or Hannity or... one of those wingnuts will come up with something to get you out of this predicament. I will be listening to them just as attentively as you will.

 

There goes Trump yanking your chains and you geniuses fall for it every time.

Florida residents don't pay state income tax. To escape paying the 9% NY income tax, for instance, Florida residents have to act like Florida residents 6 months out of the year. Floridians and Florida post offices are used to vote-by-mail. I believe it was used by 30% of voters, as much as 45% for primaries that are held after mother's day when most old people have moved back up north.

The flip side is that, especially in states where mail-in is not as widespread as Florida, minorities and young people have higher ballot rejection rates for mail-in ballots since many of these voters are victims of common corpse and other school system embarrassments. Next time you get a chance, thank Trump for looking out for you and your right to vote.

 

In the last 4 elections, only 28 MILLION ballots have been lost, so...you know...it will work out fine this time right?

 

Some other Yahoo that can't differentiate between, absentee ballots and what the Democrats want which are entirely different things.

 

In court attorneys representing the GOP claim the terms absentee and mail-in voting are “interchangeable”.

The difference is the delivery system to the voter and obstacles placed on mail-in votes in various states.

The D’s want mail-in voting without the obstacles for instance, in some states you need an excuse to cast a mail-in vote. Many state legislatures and Secretary of States are working to resolve these issues now (R&D).

The issue is simply more people voting and some R’s believing they do better with a depressed vote total. The reason for the misinformation, whining, and shenanigans at USPS.

In past elections R’s have cast more mail in votes than D’s. The reason for the bizarre situation where some D’s want Trump to continue casting doubt on mail in (depress his own vote) and some R’s screaming for him to stop ( Florida finally got through to him).

With the virus everyone should be voting mail-in and the FED should be helping (not hindering) states pull it off in a timely fashion.

 

I am really going to laughing so hard if Trump is announced the winner in Dec and all the Ds start screaming "fraud".

BTW, it was the D's that stated their only shot of winning, before COVID, was to have miniscule shot of winning. But a lot of things change in 6 months, or even the next 3.

 

That's because the Dems are trying to use the terms interchangeably. For absentee ballots the onus is on the voters both to get the ballot, get it notarized and get it mailed in on time. What the Dems are talking about is mailing ballots to every flipping address on town including vacant lots abandoned buildings and probably cemetery plots,

 

Fourth OP on this same topic. The search engine must be broken.
I love it when Trump pulls the chains of some people.

 

What the hell are you talking about? What is there to be used to? It's just another letter to deliver. Are you saying only Florida post offices know how to handle delivering a piece of mail?

I have no idea what that means, but if those are the groups who get the most rejected votes, that should thrill Republicans. Because minorities and young people are most definitely not inclined to vote for Trump.

But he does have an edge on the "stupid voter" demographics, so you might have a point. Though not the one you're making. Because we have here in Florida just as many stupid people as any other state in the Union.

In reality, he's just using the gullible among his flock to cast aspersions on a perfectly legitimate voting method.

 

In FLORIDA the land of the hanging chad?????Give me a break!!!

 

• There is no objective difference between absentee voting and voting by mail.
  
  
• All mail ballots, regardless of how they are requested, are treated the same once they’re cast. They all require verification before being counted.
  

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...raws-false-distinction-between-absen/#sources

 

I found you claim interesting and did a quick google search of the subject. Have you read the details of your claim? Here is a follow up of that story from RealClearPolitics.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...8_million_missing_mail-in_ballots_143123.html

 

It seems there are two choices: vote in person or vote "not" in person, which by definition means absent.

If there's a third way, I can't figure it out. Any vote not cast in person is cast by someone absent, hence the word absentee.

 

And? Yes, I know whats in there. I know the "missing" is not just "lost".

 

That would be dumb. I'm fairly confident that the PO doesn't deliver to vacant lots, abandoned buildings nor cemetery plots.

Ballots and requests for ballots are sent to registered voters.

 

They're not missing nor lost. They're sitting in land fills across the country.

 

We got an invitation to request a ballot. We had to sign it, to check it against our signature on file.

 

Of course. The hysteria against mail voting is ridiculous.

 

Especially since we've had mail in voting, since Lincoln got it pushed through Congress.

 

He's not pulling my chain. I knew he was full of it from the beginning. What he's pulling are strings.

 

So? Did the printing press run out of ink that they couldn't print more?

And what does that have to do with mail-in voting? Or with Florida's Super-mail carriers (according to Trump)

 

Not as much as I love it when Trumpists spend their time counting threads because they realize they have no arguments to defend their leader.

 

It is just your post is kind of misleading. When I first saw it I thought you were implying that 28 million ballots were fraudulently destroyed or miscounted. If that were the case it would be a strong argument against mail in voting.

 

There are many reasons some of those ballots were not used: people moved to a different precinct or state, people did not vote, people were ill, people died, college students went home to vote, women married and changed their name and needed a new ballot, people changed party affiliations (primary elections) and needed a new ballot, people voted in person but did not turn in the mail in ballot (not allowed in many states). State laws vary but in my state ones request for a mail in ballot can be made up to a year before an election and is good for the next two elections.

 

The first thing I considered was the amount of labor needed to seek, sort and destroy 28,000,000 ballots. Most mail ballots require additional postage, so they weigh more than an ounce, but for sake of argument, let's say they each weigh one ounce. That's 28,000,000 ozs divided by 16 equals 1,750,000 lbs of ballots. The level of organization and the sheer amount of labor needed to achieve the felonious destruction of 28,000,000 ballots is conspiratorial to the extent of hilarity.