Hiroshima at 75: bitter row persists over US decision to drop the bomb

Irrelevant to the topic.

Ironic, pathetic & ridiculous ad hominem spewing.

 

Hirohito cast one tie-breaking vote at the last military conference, where Japan's surrender was decided. Most military chiefs were against the idea and determined to fight to the last man literally. Just like Churchill, these military chiefs enjoyed every minute of the war and they didn't want an abrupt end of the war. They could also expect to be executed by the Americans, which was what happened to them at the Tokyo War Crimes Trials.

 

More excuses for wanton/horrendous terrorism based on a preposterous broadening of definitions.

Japan was on its knees, and terrorism is never acceptable.

 

Irrelevant.

Terrorism is never acceptable.

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Alas...

 

Irrelevant; Japan was prepared to surrender.

 

Nonsense; Japan was prepared to surrender and terrorism is never acceptable.

 

Japan was prepared to surrender and terrorism is never acceptable.

 

I agree terrorism is never acceptable. War is not terrorism- but certainly terrifying. Japan created the war, thus- the consequences for their future. They could have halted that at any time, by their own choice.
Terrorism is when people attack a country not at war with them, or a group of people go about creating terror for political purposes- Like today's BLM,and the peaceful the rioters who are all of course just carrying bottles of gasoline in case their car runs out of gas, which would leave them no way to haul off the loot without stealing another car- IF they could find one that wasn't already on fire.

WHO is a terrorist seems to depend a lot on which side of the situation you are on.

 

Attacking military targets, even cities is not terrorism by definition. No doubt you will prattle on with ridiculous nonresponsive terms like "irrelevant" and "ad hominem"

 

I just read this today.

American military archives reveal that if the Japanese had not surrendered on August 15, 1945, they would have been hit by a third and potentially more powerful atomic bomb just a few days later and then, eventually, an additional barrage of up to 12 further nuclear attacks.

Documents highlighted during commemorations to mark the 70th anniversary of the bombings of Hiroshima on August 6, and Nagasaki on August 9, which forced the end of World War II, show the determination of the United States to make Japan surrender unconditionally.

In the spring of 1945, the U.S. Army set up a special target committee to debate key Japanese cities to attack as officials believed their regime had already made it perfectly clear they were not willing to surrender at any price.

Target committee members believed an atom bomb could destroy the infrastructure of Japan without the need for an invasion, so the cities of Kyoto, Hiroshima, Yokohama, Kokura, Niigata, and even Tokyo were identified as potential areas for destruction.

Archival records show a third bomb was under assembly at Tinian in the Mariana Islands where the Enola Gay and Bockscar had flown from.

A transcript of a top-level call between two military experts on August 13 reveals details of this “third shot.” It also confirmed that a vast production line of about 12 other atomic bombs was being readied for additional continuous strikes against other key targets.

It was agreed this next bomb would be available to be dropped on August 19, with a schedule of further bombs available throughout September and October.

 

How about showing exactly where I am wrong rather than just making broad statements which don't really mean much.

 

And certainly not so when countries are in declared wars.

 

The still needed the fissionable material, making the mechanical bomb was not the problem. They were ramping up for sure and would have had one and once production really ramped up 2 or 3 a month, but there was not one waiting on Tinian when the Nagasaki bomb was dropped.

 

The Japanese military was not prepared to surrender and was in fact prepared for a massive defense which would have cost millions of lives. It was the Emperor who stepped in and ended it in order to save millions of lives, mostly Japanese lives.

 

For the Japanese, at that time, The Emperor was as close to a deity as you could get. They kept fighting until their god told them to stop. When the Emperor announced that they should stop fighting, for the vast majority, that was the first time they had ever heard their Emperor's voice.

It makes no difference whether they were on their knees or not. They kept fighting until their Emperor told them to stop. Most estimates that the bombs saved lives, including Japanese lives.

Those bombs were no more terrorism than the fire storms. Dead is dead whether it is a civilian or military, whether it is caused by an atom bomb or a bullet.. Better that they die than we die since they started the war.

Patton said something to the effect that the objective of war is to make the enemy die for their country rather than us dying for our country.

 

It is indisputable they were not and would not have until the Emperor in an extraordinary move stepped over the military and issued the surrender order and a few days later announced it on the radio it was the first time an Emperor had spoken directly to the people of Japan his voice being considered that of a god.

 

But it must not.

 

Bizarre/nonsensical. Irrelevant ad hominem.

 

Educate yourself; read the thread; meditate; terrorism is always wrong. (You're welcome.)

 

Pearl Harbor was an act of terrorism as it was committed against a unsuspecting non belligerent state. The bombing of Japan was an attack against a defined enemy and both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were legitimate military targets. Seven decades of debate has settled nothing but what is absolutely indisputable is the bombs ended the war and because of that it's reasonable to conclude that, that saved lives. If you come up behind me and sucker punch me and I get up and incapacitate you, is that an act of terrorism? I don't want to terrorize you I just just want you to stop.

 

Save your self admiration for someone that appreciates it. You have provided no counter to any of my arguments. Those bombs are no more terrorism than any other aspect of war.

 

Act of war. Nope. False. Nonsensical attempt at equivalence. Ditto.

 

Ridiculous/irrelevant ad hominem. False. Ditto.

 

Your opinion.