AG Barr On Universal Mail-In Voting: “This Is Playing With Fire…Very Open To Fraud And Coercion”

How is anyone supposed to “follow up”? Is there a list they can check? How long do they have to wait?


This whole idea that there is likely to be mass fraud in the voting system is a hoax by trump and his supporters to undermine the legitimacy of Biden’s win.

 

And now the Democrats are calling mail in ballot fraud amongst themselves. This just a primary, just wait till general and more states use mail in voting.

Rhode Island’s Senior Ballot Harvest
A case study in the voting future as a pol targets the elderly.

Rhode Island holds its legislative primary on Tuesday, and already there are allegations of ballot harvesting and election fraud—by a Democrat against another Democrat....

....Sen. Sam Bell is accusing his primary challenger, Providence City Councilwoman Jo-Ann Ryan, of election fraud and preying on seniors. Rhode Island lets voters who miss the deadline to apply for mail-in ballots to authorize a surrogate to pick up and return a ballot for them..

....“The practice of targeting the residents of elderly low-income housing complexes and pushing them to sign forms allowing campaigns to pick up ballots for them is at best concerning and at worst deeply immoral,” Mr. Bell said last week. “During this pandemic, it is especially concerning because flooding these buildings with canvassers places the residents at risk of Covid-19 infection.”

....To sum up: Liberals push to relax rules protecting ballot integrity on the pretext of protecting society’s vulnerable from Covid-19. Then they target the elderly to harvest ballots. House Democrats want to mandate this nationwide.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/rhode-islands-senior-ballot-harvest-11599518473?mod=opinion_lead_pos4

 

Depends on the state but most from what I have read you do it online. If there is mail in voting in a state and no way to check on election day it has been received even MORE reason not to vote by mail or have it at all.

And again stop with the canard it has to be "mass" to influence an election.

 

It astounds me that Americans are so much more incompetent than the rest of the world.

 

Voter fraud exists elsewhere, too.

And the largest nations on earth don't have legit elections. China, for example. Building a system that accurately collects the votes from 165,000,000 people isn't exactly easy.

But mail-in-voting is a step backwards, not forwards.

 

You only say that because you think it will work against your preferred candidate or party.

I don’t think it will particularly help or hurt either party. I think it will make life easier for many people. That’s all.

 

Most cases of voter fraud benefit Democrats. Sure, Republicans here or there do it, too. So no, I don't want ANY form of voting that is a step backwards.
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But no, I'm against it because it is more ripe for fraud. It's less accurate. And less secure. Everyone should be against that.

 

Actually, Republicans in Congress want Trump to shut his yap.

A lot of Republicans are elderly, and this will discourage some of them from voting at all.

This is noise all Trump and his Cult. Which is to say hallucinatory and wrong..

 

But other countries manage to do it without significant levels of fraud. Why do you think Americans are so incompetent that they can’t match the success of other countries???

 

Facts prove mail-in voting is ripe with the potential for fraud. This isn't really even debatable except by hand waving and refusing to address the specific problems.

 

Huh?

The GOP did a great job in tampering with a Federal Election in 2018 in NC:

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/30/7468...s-new-felony-charges-that-allege-ballot-fraud

Anyway, Mail-In Voting WILL Happen.

So, everybody should find a way to get used to it.

 

Voting by MAIL has been happening for OVER a CENTURY already!

You are PRETENDING that this is something "new" when it is NOTHING of the sort.

There is LESS uncertainty with Voting by Mail!

You can VERIFY that the signature matches and that there is ONLY a SINGLE ballot. You can RECOUNT them as many times as you like just to be CERTAIN that you have the correct total.

Compared to some of those voting machines that have ZERO hardcopy paper trail that school kids can HACK Voting by Mail is SUPERIOR in all respects.

The only reason your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief is trying to OBSTRUCT Vote by Mail is because he is LOSING BADLY and WILL lose in 2020.

I am an ADULT and I have the PATIENCE to wait a week or three to find out the RESULTS of the election.

There is ZERO requirement that the election results MUST be available by the next day.

NONE WHATSOEVER!

Your Toddler-in-Chief is the BIGGEST LOSER and that is going to the RESULT of the 2020 election.

 

You say that Trump "promotes several key lies" about vote-by-mail, but you don't specifically state or verify what those lies are. What does that say about you?

I know how those like you operate, they keep accusing Trump of lies that he didn't commit, and then they hide under the forum umbrella of nobody being able to call them a liar for doing so. You need to remember that politically disagreeing with something doesn't make it a lie, just a disagreement.

If you had knowledge on the subject, you would know that it's not Trump's job to ensure that states have a "secure and effective" voting system, it's the job of the states, and it's the Democrat vote-by-mail states that are causing all the upheaval and chaos in our voting process, not Trump.

 

There's a reason why Democrats favor mail-in-voting, and it's not because it's a safe, efficient, and fail-proof system; but instead a system fraught with fraud and corruption, and easily gamed by those morally bankrupt enough to game it, sabotage it, and delay the final results indefinitely.

 

Another FACTLESS opinion that CANNOT be substantiated duly noted FTR!

 

0.00006%

 

Source? Let's get the spin documented.

 

Thank you.

 

How do you know your vote was counted when you vote at the polls?
I think your better off when you can make sure it got there to be counted.
https://www.wired.com/2016/11/vote-counts-ballot-get-counted/

 

I'm sure they are checking all their reliable sources, starting with Mother Jones!

 

We don't.

And we have even LESS confirmation that a mail-in vote was counted. See the problem yet?

 

No need to divert. This is about whether your ballot is even submitted. How do you know your mail in ballot is even RECEIVED if you cannot check on line? According to all the people who vote by mail here they can go online and check. Then if it doesn't show are received then then can go to the polling place and vote AS I DO.

 

That's what your post was, so why complain about mine?

 

What incompetency are you talking about. Other countries postal services never lose a piece of mail and have 100% ontime deliveries or something.

Do you vote by mail? Do you not follow up to make sure your ballot reached and election official who then cast it on your behalf? Your vote is not cast just because you gave it to a postal carrier.

 

Says who? I think the better question is

Why Do Most Countries Ban Mail-In Ballots?: They Have Seen Massive Vote Fraud Problems

..Among the 27 countries in the European Union, 63% ban mail-inabsenteevoting unless living abroad and another 22% require a photo-ID to obtain a mail-inabsenteeballot. Twenty-two percent ban the practice even for those who live abroad.

There are sixteen countries in the rest of Europe, and they are even more restrictive. Every single one bans mail-in absentee voting for those living in the country or require a photo-ID to obtain a mail-in ballot. Sixty-three percent don’t allow mail-inabsenteeballots even for citizens living outside of the country...
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3666259

And that's just the European countries.