Hundreds of members of black militia raise their guns while holding an armed rally in

Well not sure if that is scary or not, seeing as only 50% of them know which end is the business end.

 

I think it's more moronic to go to a protest without a bunch of guns. You don't see these guys getting tear gassed and getting beat up by the police. I wonder why that is?

 

But without eradicating the entrenched poverty and the ghettos themselves, via a job guarantee. That's my point.

The US has all the resources and productive capacity it needs to achieve this outcome, largely within a decade, and certainly within a generation. Look at the number of brand new cities China has built since opening up its economy.

 

That's nice. Its not relevant to the topic, however.

 

"hundreds-of-members-of-black-militia-raise-their-guns-while-holding-an-armed-rally"

So you are not interested in examining why?

 

Everyone has a job guarantee. Go to school, get good grades, go to college and get a useful degree, get a job. I guarantee it will work.
Don't do drugs. Don't break the law. It's not a secret but it does require a lot of work.

Anyway, has anyone ever seen a bunch of people raise their guns why holding an unarmed rally?

 

They also arent stealing and burning ****.

 

The NAIRU economic orthodoxy, followed by even the nation's reserve bank chief, by definition says you are wrong.

That's why heterodox economists (eg MMT economists) propose a role for government as employer of last resort (ELR).

ie A job Guarantee. You need to do some research.

(Though no doubt asking Powell to question his economic dogma is like asking an ISIS theologian to question the Koran's status as the "True and Perfect Word of God" . Such is Conservative attachment to ideology, whether religious or economic).

Like I said to another poster, I'm interested in causes rather than effects.

 

Perhaps, that's a fair point. But their standing there brandishing their guns for all to see is going to be the story, not the issue they are protesting.

 

Feel free to start you own topic.

 

Lol...well, the DHS has correctly labeled white supremacists as the biggest domestic terrorist threat, so take your pick, but we all know what they are and what we'll have to do if they get out of hand.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/6/dhs-white-supremacists-are-most-lethal-domestic-ex/

 

It doesn't take too much work to see that Islam is the biggest domestic terrorist threat, still.
Just start going down the list and make your own buckets for this list. Start at 2010 if you want and you will soon see that most are Islam related.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#Left-wing_extremism_and_anti-government

 

Now, if only that were related to the issue at hand, eh?
Why the difference in coverage?

 

Don't forget knives, bats, fists and feet.

 

Your casual indifference to unemployment ("everyone has a job guarantee') reveals an inability to consider the issues, confirmed in your above comments.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/0...-now-greatest-domestic-violence-threat-933137

"FBI memo says white supremacists, racist terrorists are now greatest domestic violence threat"

Maybe the FBI knows what they are talking about....

 

So you aren't going to even look for yourself? Even after I gave you the data? That's Ok. You are a good little follower.

The article you cite is pretty interesting though. While it headlines white supremacists, it mostly talks about left wing violence and antifa.

 

To be fair though, another article talks more about the memo.

FBI Director Christopher Wray said during congressional hearings earlier this month that his agency was conducting investigations into violent domestic extremists, include white supremacists and anti-fascist groups. He said the largest “chunk” of investigations were into white supremacist groups.

White supremacist, anti-Semitic, anti-government, and related ideologies were tied to 77 percent of 454 alleged domestic extremist murders in the past decade, according to data compiled by the Anti-Defamation League, a New York City-based anti-hate advocacy organization, and presented at one of the congressional hearings last week.

You realize that BLM protests/riots and antifa stuff is all filed under "anti-government" don't you? Without seeing the actual data, none of us actually know what the data really says. All we know is what the FBI wants people to think based on how he makes the statement.

As far as actual violence and deaths, I'm just not finding all that much actual stuff done by white supremacists. And the few that I have found seem to be lone perpetrators as the memo stated.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...xtremist-threat-around-election-idUSKBN26K2J7

 

A mob of MAGA persuation
Conducted a State House invastion.

Though heavily armed.
The left unharmed.

And that’s how you know
They’re caucasian.

 

agree, but I also think one should not have to ask for permission to concealed carry, as one should not have to ask for permission to carry the polite way

the reality is, one does not have to get permission to open carry, they do have to ask permision to conceal their gun

that said, I will try to avoid any angry group carrying guns, left\right\black\white

 

If they were the #BLMob, they would have tried to burn the place down, and then rioted after the police stopped them.
Oh wait... Whitmer is a Democrat -- she would have told the police to back off and let them burn whatever they wanted.

 

According to you: " Islam is the biggest domestic terrorist threat",

Directly rebutted by the FBI.

Comprehension problems?

Hence you turn "White supremacist, anti-Semitic, anti-government*, and related ideologies" into "left wing violence and antifa".


You do this BECAUSE you are indoctrinated by neoliberal economic orthodoxy, as revealed by your casual indifference to, and refusal to examine, the causes of systemic poverty and unemployment ("everyone has a job guarantee").

*I doubt the FBI understand the reasons for "anti-government" inclinations on the Left or Right.

Besides, it's much easier to bring in the army to maintain "law and order", than to deal with the systemic poverty and unemployment that the Left wants to eradicate, via "an economy that works for all" (Bernie Sanders)

 

Nice to see the 2nd Amendment being practiced equally.

 

Where would you put the BLM protests/riots? Certainly not pro government. You didn't read very well because you have already pinned me as a right winger. I look at the data and make my own conclusions. I've downloaded that data that I asked you to look at. I bucketed the instances of violence and came to my own conclusion. If the FBI has better data, I would love to see it but all I have is a reporter's retelling of what he was told. And what he was told is vague. I haven't seen any reason to change my mind based on you taking the reporter's word for it. You haven't presented any data so why would I?

 

I see BLM protests and riots as a reaction to the entrenched systemic poverty which Conservatives erroneously consider are the fault of those living with the entrenched poverty.

See above; my concern is with eradicating egregious economic disadvantage. You already confirmed you are a right-winger with your inane, careless "everyone has a job guarantee" remark.

See...you continue to dismiss the REAL issue, which is systemic (entrenched) economic disadvantage. ("You are living in poverty, your neighborhoods are like war zones...." : even Trump saw the reality in 2016, re the black inner city ghettos).

It's the Right. not the Left, who say this terrible entrenched poverty is the fault of the ghettos dwellers themselves, because "everyone has a job guarantee", or some other simplistic appeal to 'personal responsibility'. .

Hence you are satisfied to bring in the army to maintain "law and order", without any plan to eradicate the causes of the protests and violence.

Thus giving white supremacists a cover for their own reactionary violence, which you want to blame on Antifa and the Left.

Note: Antifa violence is revolutionary (by definition, on the Left) on behalf of eliminating the injustice of entrenched social and economic disadvantage among the powerless, whereas white supremacist/"Proud Boys" violence is reactionary (by definition on the Right) designed to maintain the status quo of privilege for the powerful ruling class.

In other words, Proud Boys and white supremacists might be considered as "pro government, but only in the manner that fascist Right Wing military dictatorships are "pro-government".......


Ready to rethink your conception of Left Wing "anti-government" forces?

 

Sorry, the FBI didn't go into that much depth with their buckets of violence. Since BLM is protesting the police, they get thrown in with "anti-government". And that's what I'm trying to tell you in a way that isn't long winded.