Women abuser seen as a victim???

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is there any reason to believe that same sex women report differently than hetero women?

    Also, talking about "under-reporting" doesn't make sense to begin with, as I'm not sure how you get statistics on things that are never reported.
     
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    I was referring to very severe violence/sexual violence and childhood trauma, sometimes when they were a teen.
    Obviously the psyche of these particular women have been forever scarred against men. It's only a small subset of lesbians, however.
     
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    Which is mostly done by women, i.e. the mother.
     
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    Yes, women commit a bunch of domestic abuse. Study lesbian abuse of one another.
     
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    I'm sure there are a very very small subset of women who would have turned out lesbian except for the fact that they were horrendously sexually abused by a woman.

    Anything is possible. But not likely.
     
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    That's your opinion, kaz, so check it out, please.
     
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    No..it’s not the facts
     
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    Bad mommy makes women attracted to other women...jeeeez
     
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    Yeah that wasn't my argument, that was the other person.

    His suggestion was that women turn to lesbianism because of domestic abuse.

    That's when I pointed out that mother's commit statistically higher amounts of domestic abuse, and same sex relationships (including female-female), have higher rates of domestic violence than heterosexual relationships.
     
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    Yes I noticed that too.

    Interesting, isn't it.

    And the total domestic violence rate across the general population only has about a 4% difference between men and women.

    Yet, a man who talks about domestic violence is basically laughed at.
     
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  13. Yant0s

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    This thread gives me hope though most people are taking it seriously, there has only been one raging feminazi bashing it and belittling the problem. It makes me hopefull that these major issues and inequalities are beginning to be taken seriously.
     
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    When a man is abused, suddenly the left demands toxic masculinity.
     
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    I kind of have a hard time when the study is less than 50 couples.
     
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    I agree, both should be taken seriously, sad they are not always
     
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    no, we demand punishment regardless of race or gender... that is part of equality
     
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    LoL sure.
     
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    I'm sure you do.

    You could become the first member of the "Not my study" resistance.
     
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    Does this have to do with gender functioning as a steel flower symmetry?
     
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    Men are in fact victims of violence at the hands of.women in numbers which are comparable to the opposite.

    Funny you should mention gay men , statistically they are least likely.to be victims of violence at the ha d's of their partners while lesbians are most likely to be victims at the hands of their partners.

    The one in four claim is false and nothing more than feminist fiction

    You are simply misandric . And before you mention it yes I have a daughter who is smart and successful and views feminists with a healthy degree of scorn and disdain.
     
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    It's quite simple to me. We as human are fundamentally unable to feel empathy at the same level for women, children and men.
    Women would always get the biggest amount of empathy, children would get the scrap, and men nothing (excepted if it could impact women).

    That's why the work of people defending men victim of sexual abuse, domestic violence won't achieve anything. The best we could do is to teach young boys they can't hope for empathy of women and other men. That doesn't mean it won't happen but on an anedoctical level.

    On the Titanic, Women were the category with most survivor, children second and men the last. It's the same thing for domestic violence, women get all, violence against children the scraps and vioelnce against men nothing.

    Traditionnalism or feminism don't matter. It's our biological coding that turn us into sociopath toward young boy and men.
     
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    I think children are given more empathy than women, and men the least. It runs off of who is thought to be most vulnerable, and that prejudice also cuts the other way. Men are taken most seriously as threats.
     
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    Lesbians are not gay because being women aren't born gay. It's an imbalance related to men having a high sex drive. People used the word lesbian before the greek island lesbos existed. There are different words for gay men and women because there are differences besides gender.
     
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    While the entomology (right word?) of a word is good to know, the term gay in modern English means homosexual, with no actual sex/gender reference. While the term lesbian refers specifically to a gay female or homosexual female, there is no male specific term. It should be noted that while the term gay is typically aimed at males, it has not yet progressed to the point of being male specific.
     

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