Why are there only fraud claims in the states Trump lost?

This whole dispute is mind-boggling.

"Fraud, fraud, fraud - we want recount, it's widespread fraud, etc etc".

Ok - but it just so happens that there was only fraud in the specific states that Democrats were able to foreshadow would be the closest/last ones called?

Going into the election wasn't Ohio, and Florida supposed to be some of the most controversial ones? Why is there no fraud, or lawsuits, or investigations there? Just because Trump won?

Did anyone even for a second talk about Nevada before the election? It wasn't even a top 5 - not even a top 10 most contentious state. But somehow that's the one state all of the rigging happened because all those people were able to predict that that's the one that would tip the scales in the end?

All of it is such lunacy. No credibility or basis whatsoever.

Do you want to be truly objective, and are you truly upset there are a lot of potential irregularities? Great - that's a great mentality. No sarcasm at all. But if that were the case, what you should do is:

- Insist on widespread election reforms, including in states where Trump won. Do so when you enter office - don't start crying wolf after you lose, or even a few months prior to elections when it seems you're going to lose.
- If you want every vote to count and claim it doesn't currently because many irregularities - well, go ahead and pursue investigations in "dead people voting" and "out of state people voting" in every single state, not just the 3-4 states that were the last ones called that didn't go your way.
- Aren't all of those irregularities things that happen in every single election? Trump wants voter integrity - that's fantastic. Would have been nice to hear that 4 years ago. But no - if he wins, everything was ok and nothing worth criticizing?

All of it is just lunacy. I don't understand how people can believe there's any credibility whatsoever in some of these claims.

I'm not even a Trump hater. I'm way more pro-republican on most policies than I am pro-democrat. I like a lot of the policies the Trump side implemented in past 4 years, and disagree with a lot Biden and especially the Democratic party want to do, or have done/talked about doing in the past. I also think Democrats wasted a crazy amount of time on a witchhunt these past 4 years, blocking everything, rather than trying to help run the country in the best way possible. But none of this changes the above regarding election .

It's just so blatantly transparent how all of this ruckus of an election fraud is just sour grapes.

"On election night I won PA by a lot! But all night long Democrats kept making up votes to bridge the gap until Biden was close!"

Ok....how about the fact that Ohio was the exact opposite? Biden was winning by a LOT - and it's Trump that came back and closed the gap and ended up winning by a lot. That part is ok and not suspicious, correct?

I would love to hear some opinions from posters who actually believe some of these fraud allegations on how they respond to some of these points.

 

...nothing but crickets so far ...

There is a very simple explanation for the vast swings of the pendulum on election day. Those states that don't count mail-in ballots until polls close on election day showed early leads for Trump, but once the mail-ins were added to the tally, Biden pulled ahead. In those states where mail-ins are counted as they arrive but not posted until polls open on election day showed early leads for Biden, but Trump pulled ahead as in-person voting proceeded.

 

They didn't notice any fraud in those states?

They aren't contesting all the states Biden won are they?

 

Great OP. Welcome.

 

THIS! Yes! What Trumpists are doing is identifying certain clerical errors, expressing outrage, and asserting these prove the election was fixed.

Anyone notice what happened with the Georgia recount? Fayette County uncovered 2,755 votes that were not included in the initial count, and Floyd County uncovered 2,600 votes.

Why do you suppose Trumpists aren't suggesting this is more proof of fraud? Because these ballots were predominantly for Trump (Fayette: net of 449 for Trump; Floyd: net of 800 for Trump).

Moral of the story: errors do happen, but errors do not imply fraud.

 

Actually, those missing ballots were found by the automatic canvassing of counties in Georgia and would have been found had Team Trump entered the picture. Most large errors do get found, fraud is very, very rare.

 

Found votes that were not counted is not how fraud works. Fraud happens when those ballots get stolen or destroyed. You don't just leave them hanging around to be discovered and for questions to be asked about who had access, and then counted unless you are a total moron.

 

They are only looking for fraud in states where Trump lost by a few thousand votes.

Apparently Trump doesn't care about fraud in states where he lost by lots of votes

There are no fraud lawsuits in New Jersey. Or Maryland. Which is really funny.

 

All of it is just backasswards it's really incredible.

I remember on election night Trump was saying "stop counting in PA!". Okay, so here's how a sensible viewer may want to react to that: "I mean, i don't agree with it and I think they should continue counting, but I suppose his argument is you should count day of votes only, avoid potential late votes etc...I don't agree with it, I think he's probably wrong - but I get where he's coming from and am curious to see if there's justification behind the argument, so let's see how it plays out..."

Right? Give him the benefit of the doubt, try to understand why, don't jump to conclusions and assume there isn't a logical reason.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME....

"Let's keep counting in Arizona! Biden is ahead but we're confident we'll come from behind and win the vote in that state.."

What?

It's absolutely ridiculous how stupid the whole thing is.

 

Something is rotten in America:

 

Not something, someone. And his name is Donald J. Trump.

Most Americans do not want another four years of his total incompetence and his gigantic, fragile ego. We voted to put a grownup into the Oval Office ... maybe not a perfect choice, since no one is perfect, but my mutt of a dog would make a better POTUS than Trump.

Please stop disregarding and disrespecting the majority of your fellow Americans. We voted in unprecedented numbers in spite of a deadly, highly contagious virus just to get rid of Trump. We won. Trump lost. End of story.

 

Bull crappy. It gets even worse and if you can't take pain like a man then don't look at this next video:

 

Why are there only fraud claims in the states Trump lost?

The same reason Democrats only care about fraud, voting irregularities, etc, when they lose.

 

You know the popular vote doesn't matter, right?

 

No idea what the source is for that, but all of the fraud allegations from Trump's people have been either dropped or tossed out of court ... their score is currently 1 and 32, and the 1 was simply getting their poll watchers four feet closer to the ballot counters in Philadelphia.

Sorry, I know how much it sucks, but this time you are on the losing side. And as for the ability to withstand pain, as a woman I'm willing to go head to head with any man on that score. Just sayin'.

 

It doesn't count, but it definitely matters.

 

If you've watched the two videos I've attached then you'll know that there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. Maybe you didn't actually watch them?

I didn't make the videos and I own no dog in this race. I have no personal investment in it nor will the issue have any direct effect upon me … no matter who wins the election.

As a 73-year-old man, a husband, a father, and a war veteran it is very unlikely that you have (or ever will) experienced some of the pain I have endured, but this is certainly not the issue in this thread.

 

It does?
If one candidate has 270 electoral votes, how does the popular vote matter?
If -no- candidate has 270 electoral votes, how does the popular vote matter?

 

It OBVIOUSLY "Matters" in the Individual States.

 

It gets worse and worse .... and even worser!

 

Like I said, 1 and 32 and counting. Your videos prove nothing to the contrary. Fraudulent voting did not give the election to Biden, we the people did. Get over it.

 

Fraud has been (and continues to be) perpetrated on a vast scale. The writing is on the wall. All you have to do is read it.

 

I've been reading it. I've been watching Rudy and his team make clowns of themselves. I have yet to see this fraud on a "vast scale" and you have yet to provide anything other than extreme right wing videos spouting already debunked nonsense.

 

You have no idea what "EXTREME right" means, do you.

Get over what? Other than Democracy what do you imagine it is I am defending?

 

Why would the President look for fraud in states that he won? Those are states that Biden lost, and it would be up to his campaign to expose any fraud in those states. President Trump attempted to expose the fraud as President, but many of the states refused to cooperate. Many of those states are the ones that Biden won. So, now the President has another chance to expose the fraud in those states.

BTW, you do know the real reason that the DNC pushed for an expansion of the Absentee Voting in violation of the Federal Absentee Voting Act? It was to bypass the whole voter ID rule. The whole thing was nothing but fraud.