DONALD J. TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT, INC., et al., Plaintiffs, v. KATHY BOOCKVAR, et al., Defendants.

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Trump gave us an America that in shambles, his entire team has covid, people are at each other's throats, hate crimes are up, farmers markets have been destroyed, allies look upon us in pity, the country is far more divided than it has ever been, deficits are careening to hitherto unseen heights, and Trump is worried about being prosecuted as the SDNY is hot on his trail. I recall Trump declaring that 'The American dream is dead'. Yeah, he killed it.

    The Bloviating Blowhard's Bullshit Brigade Bombs in a Blizzard of BS, just as it began. The world celebrates.

    Good ****ing riddance.
     
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  2. peacelate

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    Trumpers are delusional. They are trying to paint this like Trump campaign have been losing their cases on purpose to get to SCOTUS faster so they can show their evidence (aka tweets and affidavits).
     
  3. Conservative Democrat

    Conservative Democrat Well-Known Member

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    Donald Trump gave us record national debt by cutting taxes for the rich. Under his presidency the United States suffered the worst black ghetto riot in our history.
     
  4. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Thats nice.
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Worst black ghetto riot from black lives matter which is evil and violent and all Democrats.
     
  6. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So baseless legal action against a duly elected president is bad now?
     
  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your question has a false premise, and, as such, cannot be answered.

    If you believe a premise to be true, you must first give attention to the obvious fact that it is debatable, and if it is debatable, then to premise a question upon it is, at the minimum, asking a question with an assumed premise.

    The proper order of things goes like this:

    First you provide the argument, i.e state your case with either evidence, a sound path of logic, or both, to such a degree that a reasonable person would achieve a meeting of mind with you on the premise (i.e., 'baseless'), and when you have done that, and ONLY when you have done that, Then you can ask the question.

    IF your reply goes something like "well, you can't dictate to me how I ask questions", ...okay..... Then my reply is:

    Fine, then I will merely answer it as I have already done:

    Your question has a false premise, and, as such, cannot be answered.
     
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  8. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is a far comparison considering what was behind Trumps impeachment. What you tolerate, you condone.
     
  9. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    His own phone call was behind it. That's called hard evidence.
     
  10. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It still turned out to be a politically motivated abuse of power just like this one.
     
  11. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Just like what one?

    Trump abused his power. The House called him on it. False claims of fraud are just that, false. The impeachment presented irrefutable evidence. This one is false.
     
  12. Andrew Jackson

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    Oh well.

    The Impeachment put Trump is some pretty exclusive company.

    A Unique Presidential Club (Of which he is the ONLY Member):

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  13. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Irrefutable evidence that it was politically motivated. If you supported it, fine. I respect your opinion. I oppose these abuses of power regardless of the letter by their name. Its not good for the country.
     
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    Pennsylvania has already CERTIFIED it's states election results with Biden the clear winner and Dirty Donald the PATHETIC LOSER !!!!
     
  15. ChiCowboy

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    Not sure what you're talking about. We have the phone call. Whether it was politically motivated is irrelevant to that fact.

    On the other hand, no evidence of fraud at all

    Two entirely different things
     
  16. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So throwing politically motivated legal power at a duly elected president is bad?
     
  17. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    A president abusing his power is bad.
     
  18. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed. How about congress, law enforcement, IRS?
     
  19. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    No one should abuse his power. Impeaching someone for abuse is not in itself, an abuse of power. It's a constitutional duty.
     
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  20. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The impeachment was the abuse of power. It was not done in the interest of justice or the American people. Same with Clinton. In the end, it comes down to the need to reduce government power.
     
  21. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    That's ridiculous. Trump attempted to use public office for his personal gain. That's abuse of power.
     
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  22. Hoosier8

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    He says with no proof.
     
  23. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not defending Trump. Both parties are getting away with overreach because Americans are too busy fighting among each other. The trick is to get people to oppose abuse even when they agree with what they are doing.
     
  24. ChiCowboy

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    Not sure what you mean. The phone call was clear.
     
  25. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We can't pick and choose the abuse of power. If you support bigger government and more power, you support all the abuse that comes with it. The letter by their name makes no difference.
     

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