Should Pompeo be prosecuted?

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Pompeo did an end run around congress with an $8bn dollar arms deal to Saudi Arabia.

    State Dept IG Steve Linick started to investigate.

    Trump fired him.

    When asked why he fired him, Trump said (paraphrased) "I never met the guy, I only fired him because Pompeo told me to".

    Congress issues subpoenas to the State Department to investigate.

    Pompeo instructs his staff to not honor congressional subpoenas.

    Therefore, the question: Should Pompeo, once out of office, be investigated and if there are crimes, be prosecuted?

    I believe so, yes. Glenn Kirshner, who was prosecutor for 30 years in Washington DC, weighs in:

    The video should start at 4:25, if it doesn't, that's where you want to start it.

     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump was yesterday, you can move on now.

    You won.
     
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    it's not about winning or losing. It's about law and order and ensuring government officials are held to a high standard. Trump and his cronies think just because you are in a position of authority you are entitled to do whatever you want. They have hid behind the presidency for protection, but actions have consequences and if wrongdoing is found they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law to ensure our nation's integrity.
     
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    I'm sure you said that about Hillary also.
     
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    Biden - China and Ukraine. Just sayin.
     
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    "But ... but .... Hillary!"

    :deadhorse:
     
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    There's no evidence of criminal activity.
     
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    Pompeo is a weak man with an ambitious, unscrupulous wife goading him on.
    His wife thinks he can don trump's mantle, but he'll never be more than a sycophantic fool that has lost whatever reputation he may have when he joined trump's sewer.
     
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    According to Biden.
     
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    Most of Trump's sycophants should be prosecuted but they won't be because Trump will preemptively pardon them.
     
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    According to virtually anyone who has looked into the allegations, including Trump's pet AG, Billy "the bag man" Barr.
     
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    I just find their hypocritical selection of instances kind of funny in this instant, so let's make it clear to everyone:

    Aid withheld from the Ukrainians: "He's withholding aid for political dirt on his opponent!" Ukrainians literally come out and deny this accusation, there's still an impeachment anyway.

    Pompeo delivers aid to the Saudis(who I dislike geopolitically, but the US has historically been allied with them): "OMG, it's a crime because they didn't inform Congress"

    OOH, I know a couple of instances this matches: The ARAB Spring, Congress wasn't informed. The Bergdahl deal, Congress again wasn't informed.

    So it appears you can do things geopolitically without informing the Congress it just depends on whom that President is. That is not Justice, that is selective prosecution.
     
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    Isn't Congress SUPPOSED to be a co-equal branch of government????
     
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    I hope the AG goes after all of them.
     
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    May God preserve you innocence.
     
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    Cute, but that doesn't make it any less so, but it's all good when your ox avoids being gored, right?
     
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    Bergdahl deal was made in an emergency. Obama saw an opportunity and acted swiftly to save someone from captivity. There was a cloudy understanding concerning the circumstances during his capture, but it was not fully understood at the time.

    Ukraine aid was withheld for Trump's own political gain. Read the impeachment testimony. Zelenski publicly denied it, but I fear this was done to not anger Trump and risk spoiling US-Ukraine relations.

     
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    What AG? Mitch won't confirm no AG. Forget about it LOL
     
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    The left side of this forum likes to make the fact-void argument that Trump has the tendencies of a fascistic authoritarian. One of the bases for this argument is that he supposedly wants to imprison his political enemies, yet time and again, especially of late, it's the left side of the forum making serious arguments about wanting to prosecute their political foes.

    Projection much?
     
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    There were those on the right side of this forum that thought that the Chinese Virus was going to be magically cured the day after the election. And, yes, the MAGAccines came out almost right after the election (nothing suspicious about the timing, not at all). But I wasn't sold on that notion: Democrats are the party of big government, and the party of big government does not want to give up power; it's antithetical to their state. You have Democrat governors that are trying to cancel Thanksgiving and Christmas, with Cuomo, for example, trying to limit households to 10 people (thankfully, many police are not enforcing his constitutionally-violating executive order).
     
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    And to the (Democracy Dies in Darkness) MSM who have done their level best to hide information from the American public.
     
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    Pompeo is a great a Secretary of State. He’d make great POTUS.
     
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    Nor is there any regarding pompeo or Trump.
     
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    Trump wanted to use the law to attack his political enemies and protect his corrupt allies. I take it you never watch the news. There is Flynn today, and the many, many times he said he wanted lock up Hillary and Biden.

    Next, following Rule of Law means giving those suspected of criminal activity their day in court. Something like 48 of Nixon's cronies were convicted. But with Trump, if the JD had the time and resources, you could bring several times that many to court. Easily.

    The problem I have with Biden is that he doesn't want to do any of that. He will follow Rule of Law, so he won't be able to influence Justice much. He doesn't need to, his AG will not want to create a lot of political controversy, or spend all his time and energy on Trump's crooks and crazies.

    Which leaves me wondering how this will play out. I wish I knew, but I'd bet no one really knows yet.
     
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    What criminal statute did he violate? Everything you mentioned are political disputes between the branches, the courts and justice system are supposed to stay out of those.
     
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