GSA tells Biden that transition can formally begin

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  1. dairyair

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    More RW rhetoric, IMO.
    Specify this shoveling out that you're seeing. Remember, we are still under trumps budget until Sept 30.

    Free food. Come on, how are people to take you serious? Waiting in line in SUVs miles long.
    Good day.

    President Donald Trump: Total Actual plus Budgeted = $6.612 trillion, a 33% increase
    President Barack Obama: Total = $6.781 trillion, a 58% increase
    President George W. Bush: Total = $3.293 trillion, a 57% increase
    President Bill Clinton: Total = $63 billion surplus, a 1% decrease
    President George H.W. Bush: Total = $1.036 trillion, a 36% increase
    President Ronald Reagan: Total = $1.412 trillion, a 142% increase
    President Jimmy Carter: Total = $253 billion, a 36% increase
    https://www.thebalance.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151

    You will notice, Reagan is the leader. Obama, Bush 2, Bush 1 and Carter tied.
     
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    Here' just one (ONE) example of people lining up in cars waiting to be handed boxes of free food: https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/t...ega-markets-continue-friday-saturday/2477358/

    That example was in Tarrant County, Texas (Ft. Worth), but we have them all over the whole "Front Range" area of Colorado, from Pueblo up north into metro Denver. I'm not making this up. And it's not unusual at all for the vehicles (ALL kinds, including SUV's) these people rode up in to be in the $40k - $60k price range, and usually less than ten years old. Look at your own local news broadcasts, where you live.

    The takeaway: people have spent charges WAY too many purchases than they could pay for, for YEARS. This phenom didn't begin with Trump, or Obama, either. Americans have been known all my long life to be a population that scoffs at the idea of saving money for 'a rainy day'... and now they want other people to give them FREE FOOD.... Sad.
     
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    Feeding people. What will the evil anti-Christians think of next?
     
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    Thanks for proving mine, they started and turned around more and more the more Republicans took back the power in DC. Go look at the LFPR, go look at median incomes and reaching unemployment levels never seen before and yes Trumps tax rate cuts and regulatory cuts were kicking in. But it's not just the President we have this thing called the Congress which must pass all legislation and tax policy.
     
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    Yes thank you Trump and the COVID task force and the big pharma's which announced their vaccines, some saying they purposely held off until the day after the election, and the brand new anti-body and other therapeutics. Thank you for what appears to be the Republicans retaining the Senate and will be able to hold off Biden and the Democrats radical plans. We had already come EXTERMELY close to that 30,000 before the election.
     
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    That the best you got, try again with an intellectual rebuttal of what I said.

    What mess the economy booming, the COVID crisis solved, energy self sufficient, peace in ME his new appointee to climate just a few years ago said would be impossible, the ISIS threat he and his former boss created wiped out and on and on. It's Bidens to blow and all I'm hearing from him are policies that will do exactly that.
     
  7. Pollycy

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    In her Post #251, @dairyair said, "Free food. Come on, how are people to take you serious? Waiting in line in SUVs miles long." So, I gave her an instance of the proof, and, there are dozens upon dozens more throughout the nation.

    Question: If 'normal' middle-class American citizens -- like little old me, for instance -- can set aside enough money to buy my own damned food, WHY CAN'T THEY?!

    Go to any website or watch any TV newscast that has stories about these massive 'food giveaways' and take a look at the vehicles a lot of these people rode up in! And that's just fine with you...?
     
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    Still record monthly fillings for unemployment, record breaking number of small businesses failing, massive food lines even in booming Texas, record covid cases and death each week, energy self sufficiency was reached under Obama. No Middle East Peace. The fight against ISIS in Syria, Iraq, Arabia and North Africa is still in full swing.
    Anything else you want to know
     
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    The stock marked is heralding the new incoming administration and the unbelievable success of of a small but rather innovative company in Germany. Its CEO, a second generation immigrant from Turkey, had the foresight in to start on a vaccine in January. Bold, very bold and daring.
    In March the results were very promising and he called his friend at Pfizer, the CEO and with light speed they had a agreement, two immigrants working together, absolute great. No false patriotism, we first and crap like that. No warp speed at that point.
    Than Warp Speed was announced and became a political tool of the US government and both partners decided to stay away from it, as far as possible. When Bunker Boy started to pressure the US agencies to fast track, so he could have a vaccine announcement before election.
    They organized all the other US manufacturer and they wrote a open letter, to the world, that they would never fast track, follow the established rules of Phases 1,2,3.
    That was a extraordinary move, a reaction to the reckless and stupid announcements of government of the US.
    Even the participants of warp speed signed it.
    The 2 partners felt good to take money from the German government and the EU, around 500 millions, because their were not strings attached and the ethics are right.
    Even Moderna, who's CEO likes Bunker Boy and participates in warp speed did not cave in, ethics, they followed the science procedures.
    They all knew, politics is a 4 year cycle and Bunker Boy could loose. You hitch your cart to that and violate ethics, your reputation is down the drain and your business, too.

    All those great announcements came after the election, rightly so. They say that is how science fell, the review boards, when they got the data.
    But you know, I have been to often around the block to believe that. They all made a statement, not to be part of those election, not to be used, misused and tarnished.
    They had no idea how this election would swing, but they wanted to stay out of it, for the good of their companies.

    Smart folks very smart folks and they will make billions because of it.
     
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    In March the results were very promising and he called his friend at Pfizer, the CEO and with light speed they had a agreement, two immigrants working together, absolute great. No false patriotism, we first and crap like that. No warp speed at that point.
    Than Warp Speed was announced and became a political tool of the US government and both partners decided to stay away from it, as far as possible. When Bunker Boy started to pressure the US agencies to fast track, so he could have a vaccine announcement before election.
    They organized all the other US manufacturer and they wrote a open letter, to the world, that they would never fast track, follow the established rules of Phases 1,2,3.
    That was a extraordinary move, a reaction to the reckless and stupid announcements of government of the US.
    Even the participants of warp speed signed it.
    The 2 partners felt good to take money from the German government and the EU, around 500 millions, because their were not strings attached and the ethics are right.
    Even Moderna, who's CEO likes Bunker Boy and participates in warp speed did not cave in, ethics, they followed the science procedures.
    They all knew, politics is a 4 year cycle and Bunker Boy could loose. You hitch your cart to that and violate ethics, your reputation is down the drain and your business, too.

    All those great announcements came after the election, rightly so. They say that is how science fell, the review boards, when they got the data.
    But you know, I have been to often around the block to believe that. They all made a statement, not to be part of those election, not to be used, misused and tarnished.
    They had no idea how this election would swing, but they wanted to stay out of it, for the good of their companies.

    Smart folks very smart folks and they will make billions because of it.[/QUOTE]

    The stock market is heralding the phenomenal announcements due to the combined public and private partnerships that we have not seen since WW2 your baseless assigning unscrupulous motives notwithstanding. It's not a it was all the private sector or it was all the government. It was a phenomenal ramp up and mobilization which required the expert work on both sides and leadership on both sides.

    You just can't stand it can you. Biden would still be holding meetings trying to figure out how the government could do what the private sector just did.
     
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    Drastically having fallen but now it seems the blue state governments want to throw more people out of work. And the vaccines are here, will begin distribution the second week of December. Early estimates is that is would take years. Therapeutics online now and the death rate has already drastically fallen. Initial estimates were over 2 million dead by now, 250,000. Look Trump can't open businesses, he hasn't closed a single one, that's a local issue.

    Energy self sufficiency reached under Trump and we became a net exporter. Obama only shot for a third less dependency and didn't hit it

    Obama administration[edit]
    In 2011, President Barack Obama released his Blueprint for a Secure Energy Future that aimed to reduce oil dependence by a third, by producing more oil at domestically, increasing use of cleaner alternative fuels, and greater efficiency. [25] Obama stated "the fact of the matter is, is that for quite some time, America is going to be still dependent on oil in making its economy work." [25]

    In 2012, Obama repeatedly stated that the US had begun "freeing ourselves from foreign oil." [26] Canadian observers noted that his usage of "foreign" did not include Canada. [27] Obama called Canada and Mexico "stable" foreign energy suppliers. [25]

    Trump administration[edit]
    In May 2017, President Donald J. Trump promised "complete" independence from foreign sources of oil.[30]

    During his administration's Energy Week celebration of June 2017, President Trump announced that he was formally seeking a review of US energy policies, in order to help the Nuclear power industry prosper. Trump also announced that the Interior Department would be kicking off the formal process to expand areas available for offshore drilling of oil and natural gas. He vowed to create "American energy dominance".[31]

    In May 2018, it was reported that US liquefied natural gas (LNG) exports had quadrupled. The value of US LNG exports was estimated to reach nearly $5 billion in 2018 and $12 billion in 2019.[32]

    In early December 2018, it was reported that the US had turned into a net exporter of oil "last week", thus breaking nearly 75 continuous years of dependence on foreign oil. Reportedly, the US sold overseas a net of 211,000 barrels a day of crude and refined products such as gasoline and diesel. This, compared to net imports of about three million barrels a day on average previously during 2018 and the prior annual peak of more than 12 million barrels a day during 2005, was confirmed by the US Energy Information Administration.[33]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_energy_independence

    And greatest achievement towards ME peace by any administration but especially the Obama/Binden administration. It appears Saudi Arabia and Israel are about to normalize relations. It is members of Bidens incoming cabinet that said that was impossible without settling the Palestinian question. Well Trump proved them wrong. Now with Biden we will once again become slaves to ME oil and no friend of Israel but buddy buddy with Iran.

    And Trump more than any other president has decimated the terrorist forces out there and Biden and the Dems and the left whined about it, Biden didn't what to hit OBL and you want him to be the leader of our national security?
     
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    The stock market is heralding the phenomenal announcements due to the combined public and private partnerships that we have not seen since WW2 your baseless assigning unscrupulous motives notwithstanding. It's not a it was all the private sector or it was all the government. It was a phenomenal ramp up and mobilization which required the expert work on both sides and leadership on both sides.

    You just can't stand it can you. Biden would still be holding meetings trying to figure out how the government could do what the private sector just did.[/QUOTE]

    As I said, please let me know what you take so I can stay away from it as far as possible.

    You do not get it. It was not the government, neither in the US or in Germany or in the EU.
    BioNtech and Pfizer did it on their own, were bioNtech is actually the company, who developed the vaccine and has all the patents etc.
    2 great individuals stuck their head out, risked gigantic amounts of money, convinced their investors, to give them more cash, private money.
    Their success in early trials and the desperation to end the pandemic, got them money from Germany and the EU.
    In the early days, April the US tried to buy curevac, an other of those Diamonds. The German Government step in and bought shares.
    So it and the mayor shareholder had a blocking majority. As Mutti called, we don't sell our Silver Ware, or should I call it Gold Ware.

    You are right in one point. The vaccine world wide is a Manhattan Project money does not matter, because it is a real pandemic.
    It is not the US government or the German government, it is the gigantic amount of money, never seen before the private sector is raising.
    In normal times bioNtech's third quarter, 2020, should have sent that company into bankruptcy, never made a profit, research.
    It quadrupled its loses compared to a year before, despite German non refundable grants, 250 millions in the red.
    Who do you think financed, the US government, really. Private investors, like me and Pfizer.
    Not Bunker Boy and his warp speed.
    It is a gigantic success of private business and corporations, which were able to round up money in a very short time, mind boggling amounts to make a vaccine possible. True vision, true business people and science.
    Not the governments and not Trump.
     
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    He announced what we already had. Its not about production, its about price. When Bunker Boy took over the US was already the largest oil and gas producer in the world. Obama was the President to allow US oil and gas producers to sell to the international market, because the US was over producing. Forced oil and gas prices down, in the US and world wide.
    But US oil is expensive to produce and at the present the producer do not break even, they are loosing huge amounts of money.
    What Bunker Boy has been building is an alliance against Iran and its partners, nothing more, based on US military sales.
    They might dry up under Biden.
     
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    You're not making it up. But you give no link or proof in Colorado?

    But from you Tx link.
    In order to meet the increased food demand that many communities are facing amid the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, the Tarrant Area Food Bank is expanding on their weekly Mega Mobile Markets.

    The virus? More demand for food? Why?
    The virus magically disappeared in April when it got warm, did it not. tRUMP said it would.
    The response was a new DEM HOAX.
    He takes no responsibility. But you think the virus is no reason for people to need food? Bad tRUMP!!!
     
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    There's a large segment of Americans that aren't normal middle class. Perhaps 20%. So, miss, ma'am, Lady. You are sadly deluded. Try to man up.
     
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    Until bidens dementia sets in fully
     
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    Well, I didn't have time yesterday to go find all the links for you, Dairy, but evidently you found some of them for yourself, and now you deflect away from the point I was making -- that way too many Americans have been irresponsibly reckless about spending all their money, and charging enormous amounts of debt on cars, phones, and a hundred other things they can't afford.

    And now? There they are in lines stretching miles, in Ft. Worth and dozens of other American cities, sitting in their nice, pricey cars, playing with their phones, commiserating with their little bust-out friends, and waiting for hours for somebody to give them free food.

    Now you resort to silly, unimaginative 'sexist' jibes at me...? C'mon, Dairy, I KNOW you can do better than that!:party: :lol:

    You may be right in stating that today only 20% of the American population is "normal middle-class"... and the slackers and bust-out's got that way largely by being thoughtless, impulsive, and STOOPID with both their money, and their 'life-choices'! Now lots of the losers line up for free food because the can't even feed themselves! No WONDER Democrats feel so triumphant -- the 'swamp' and "FREE STUFF" pandering have won the day and a nascent 'neo-Socialism' will rule over us forever!

    Whatever you tolerate you get MORE of... including mobs of stupid, irresponsible people in food lines.... :cynic:
     
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    You went there 1st. Good day
     
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    And a Happy Thanksgiving Day to you, Dairy.

    We may as well enjoy what we have left to us... January is looming, and winter will be long....
     
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    Biden can transition and be inaugurated, but if the elections in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan get reversed he's still going to get frog marched out of the White House.
     
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    Great?

    So then we get President Harris?

    And, if Harris's Election is Invalidated, then we get 4 Years of President Nancy Pelosi?

    Maybe it is just me, but I don't think that you have thought that through very well.
     
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    Why would Harris stay? Was she voted on separately? Not me....you. If the late votes in Michigan and Pennsylvania are tossed, Trump wins and Pelosi remains sphincter of the House.
     
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    You need to check your math.
     
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    Late votes being tossed have zero impact on the results. Biden was leading without them. Other than that, carry on
     
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    You've got me curious, Dairy. When did I ever throw a 'sexist' rejoinder in your face...?

    You and I disagree a great deal, but I don't recall issuing any harsh criticisms of females purely because of their gender. Can you tell me, please, where you think I did this...? Honestly, I'm 'drawing a blank'....

    While I am convinced that is an abundance of good reasons to criticize many of today's prominent radical-Democrat women, I just can't remember doing so on the basis of a person's 'sexual plumbing'.... :confusion:
     

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