Let's face the facts: Trump is not lying about election fraud

You mean like Trump/Russia collusion based on a document that everyone involved already KNEW was a Russian disinformation doccument commissioned by Hillary Clinon?

 

I agree that a lot of people jumped to conclusions about Trump conspiring with Russians. That was absurd, right? So how does that justify the blind acceptance of an election conspiracy?

 

It does not matter if the Trumpocity is lying or if he really believes that he won but invisible aliens who are in league with the Democrats and the Lincoln Project Republicans created fraud by changing Trump votes to Biden, deleted Trump votes, and multiplied Biden vote totals by 100,000,000.

It would not matter if The Trumpocity and his cult followers believes that if you wear a MAGA while pooping you will poop pure gold out.

Sorry to have to resort to grossness but when Donald's cult followers believe such sick perverted crap such as massive fraud occurring in the 2020 election there is no other way to describe such sickness.

 

Are we supposed to feel better that the POTUS is detached from reality rather than being a liar on this matter?

 

I think it does matter. There are mainstream Republicans who held their nose and voted for Trump because they liked his policies despite having an aversion to his "personality". They say that this distasteful personality isn't really important - because he's doing the right stuff. They're wrong. It IS important because it shows he's irrational, and an irrational President is more dangerous than a person who lies to take down political opponents to make himself look good.

 

No! My contention is that this is WORSE! So much of what he does is a product of his "gut instincts". His devoted followers praise this. But they are the instincts of an irrational man. Scary.

 

Yeah

Not a good choice is it? But Trump has shown more than once that he indulges in conspiracy theory thinking and THAT alone should have disqualified him in the first place

 

I have been a registered Republican for 22-23 years. I did support the corrupt one for several weeks until he attacked John McCains s military service over a political disagreement. I saw that as a sign of immoral behavior by Donnie but it was not just about MCCain. I saw it as if a man is of such low morality that he attacks another man's service that immoral man will make decisions based upon his immorality and not by what is good for the country. It does not matter if Donnie is immoral and corrupt or if he just uses immoral and corrupt tactics the results are colored the same.

Look at it this way it does not matter if Donnie is a Nazi but if he uses Nazi tactics to destroy the freedoms and democracy that we have had in our country during these past 250 years.

Being a Turd or acting like a Turd has the same result.

 

In his desperate world it is

 

Dont bury the lead, the states that did that, did it for this very reason! They made it so mail in votes would be counted last so trump could do exactly what he’s doing now. They knew those votes would be mostly dem.

 

Lies are lies. The fact that he convinces himself of his own lies only makes him a pathological liar. But nonetheless a liar.

Also willful ignorance should be counted as lies. We pay for the President to have... probably over a hundred (?) advisers, staff, intelligence briefers, ... Ignorance is not an excuse for a President. A President should have known. All they had to do was ask.

In respect to the above statement, "all politicians lie" is not technically a false statement because all PEOPLE lie. And politicians are people. But Obama told 18 lies during his whole 8 years as President. I think that would be pretty good for anyone whose every word is fact checked. In fact, that's pretty good for anybody. Would you say you have told less than 18 lies in the last four years? Trump topped 20 thousand in July. And we have yet to see the number during the campaign and the election aftermath.

 

Over 130 thousand people (as of last count) who died unnecessarily because of his incompetence, and pathological lying, would beg to differ.

 

Lol...yeah sure, tell it to the people he killed with his incompetent response to the pandemic.
Half of them would still be alive if trump wasn’t such a malignant narcissist.

 

Why isn't anyone offering up the physical ballots and the machines so that ballots can be reconciled to voter rolls and the count?

You'd think that anyone who believed the results were honest would be rushing these materials into submission to put the accusations of fraud to rest.

Don't worry, they will be providing them. They're just not ready to accept that yet.

 

You're not wrong, but I think it is useful to dig deeper and consider what's behind the lies. It is highly relevant to a judgment of the man when he ignores expert advice and clings pathologically to his irrational "gut instincts". Supporterd praise these instincts, so it is useful to demonstrate how problematic they are.

 

right now Trump's claim that the election was stolen from him due to fraud is nothing more than a paranoid and ignorant delusion.

 

When you hand over the ballots, machines and associated materials we will see if you are correct.
BTW, you will be handing them over.
Hope you kept the envelopes for ballot reconciliation to voter rolls.
Hope the logs on the machines aren't editable.
Enjoy!

 

Eloquent histrionics.
The thought of turning over the ballots, machines and all associated electronic/digital paraphernalia is getting you excited, isn't it?

 

My issue with you guys is that you irrationally assume fraud and challenge us to disprove your irrational belief. This is conspiracy theory thinking.

I sincerely hope there is a thorough, honest analysis of all that. If it turns out your hunches are right, I'll applaud your clairvoyance. I hope you will come to your senses if your theories are falsified.

I'll point out that many Trump supporters had anticipated winning court battles because of the wealth of evidence for fraud. Now that these have failed, the courts are being attacked. This is the nature of conspiracy theories: contrary evidence is always dismissed, or treated as evidence of an even wider conspiracy.

While I hope everything was kept, suppose they weren't kept. Conspiracy theorists would assume this was part of the fraud. That entails fitting facts into an irrational theory; it is not proving a theory.

 

Lmao. Three posts saying nothing more than "I'm the boss," and it's others you accuse of being exited. Smfh

 

Huh? His administrations list of accomplishments for America and for Americans is extensive. If you can't name them it's because you are brainwashed by the left wing media.

 

I detect anxiety. What's the matter?
Worried what the materials you will be surrendering will show?

 

These elections have been contested since nov 4. They better have kept the materials.
You know what happens if they haven't, and i bet it doesn't make you feel very good inside

 

Funny, you don’t even know what a witness is.

 

I damn sure know what a credible witness is. You seem to be having trouble with that.