Trump tops list of 2020's most admired men: Gallup poll

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  1. Ddyad

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    I just gave you proof that the DP rigs elections.
    Blind partisanship easily trumps reality.
     
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    IOW, you know that there have been no evidentiary hearings in the DP House proving that the charges of election rigging are false. Why not? ;-)
     
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    Polarization? Started with Obama and the left wing riots.
     
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    First of all, you, nor anyone got rid of Obama. His second term ended. You know, 2 terms are given to President's who aren't tremendous dumpster fires.

    Secondly, I admire the American people more for voting that ass hat Trump out of office.

    Lastly, I guarantee we will never see another Trump again as POTUS. That experiment was a total disaster.
     
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    What's the point when the courts have already proved it? Seems redundant to hold a hearing to come to the same conclusion.

    Why haven't the GOP addressed the elephant in the room and admit Trump voters cheated, and are going to prison?
     
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    The courts have yet to hold a hearing on the evidence to test even the key witnesses with cross examination under oath.
    And probably for the same reason the DP House has not done that - the truth would hurt - real bad. ;-)
     
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    dozens and dozens of courts have ruled the evidence to complete nonsense, and said as much in their rulings.
     
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    Including Republican appointees. Including Trump appointees.
     
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    No subpoenas, sworn witnesses, or cross examination. One day of open hearings would have sufficed.
     
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    This poll perfectly illustrates how bad things have gotten - when the best you got is Trump, then it's time to take
    a serious look at what has gone wrong.
     
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    Didn't you hear? These courts were tossing out these lawsuits so Trump and Guliani could get to SCOTUS faster, and they still blew it!!!!
     
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    No - it wouldn't. Conspiracy freaks would still scream "deep state".

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    I don't know if you're interested or not, but finding the middle ground doesn't start with "It's all the other side's fault".
     
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    There wasn't enough evidence to get to that phase in any of the 60+ suits that trump had his ass laughed out of court. There was no fraud. You can't show any. trump can't show any. his legal team can't show any. Every single investigative body that has looked into it, has also shown you there was no fraud.
     
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    Pay attention. If Giuliani and Powell have assembled hundreds of witnesses to perjure themselves to rig the election against Biden/Harris they are engaged in a massive criminal conspiracy.
    Or do you disagree?
     
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    Whenever there are even a few, let alone hundreds of sworn witness statements alleging massive election fraud that is ample cause for a full hearing. And the whole world knows it.
     
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    They know it. They know they have no evidence. They are always thinking of their next excuse for when their latest (knowingly weak) "argument" is torn apart. This is Gish gallop on steroids.
     
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    So, if Giuliani and Powell have assembled hundreds of witnesses to perjure themselves to rig the election against Biden/Harris they are engaged in a massive criminal conspiracy.
    Or do you disagree?
     
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    As an old, life-long Democrat I find the idea that we could somehow rig a general election highly amusing. I love my party, but let’s face facts. We have a difficult time organizing one car parades.

    Trump lost, mainly because of his mishandling of COVID and his inability (possibly unwillingness) to expand his base. I’m looking forward to voting against him for a third time in 2024. It gives me a reason to keep on living. :unclesam:
     
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    It some instances, judges asked to have witnesses cross-examined, but Trump lawyers declined stating their testimony wasn't relevant.
     
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    Proof please.
    Were Trump's lawyers offered a chance to subpoena election officials?
     
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    Oh please! Everyone knows that elections in our urban centers have been rigged forever - certainly since 1876.

    A serious fact hearing would discover the truth about this election in less than a day of testimony, and if Giuliani et al have assembled a collection of perjured sworn statements to challenge the election they should be indicted.

    Hold hearings and let the chips fall. Should have been done early in November. Do it NOW.
     
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    there aren't hundreds of sworn witness statements. There are a few dozen affidavits, which are not evidence. They are written allegations. You should actually read some of the rulings, which go over all of this.
    actually the whole world knows that a sizable minority of americans are batshit crazy morons, who can not accept the fact that their candidate lost. Every single investigative body from the DHS, DOJ, Attorney General, FBI, Republican secretaries of state, Republican governors, Republican appointed judges, Trump appointed judges, have all shown you that there is no evidence of fraud. Unless you want to claim all of the above are involved in a massive international conspiracy to install a democrat into the white house? Is that what you are alleging?
     
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    There have only been around 1,280 cases of voter fraud between 1993, and 2020, according to the right wing think tank heritage foundation. That is across all federal, state and local elections, with tens of millions of votes cast. There is statistically zero fraud that occurs in elections.
     
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    https://lawandcrime.com/2020-electi...ence-of-fraud-produced-obvious-lies-and-spam/

    Why does this lawyer not want witnesses who saw fraud happen to be cross-examined? Are they part of the deep state?
     
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