Body cam footage of another police shooting

Columbus , Ohio body cam footage of a policeman shooting and killing another unarmed citizen.

These days, this is happening so regularly you can set your watch, or at least calendar, by them.

When is it too much ?

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/victim-columbus-police-shooting-identified-andre-hill-12-23-20

 

That was brutal to watch and hard to listen to... Sad..

 

tl;dr Dude was caught riden' dirty and got called out by the popo. Happen all the time where I live.

 

In a nation of 320 million people you can find anecdotes of anything to pretend its a regular occurrence.

The reality is, police are far more likely to be killed by civilians than the reverse.

Far more likely to be harrased, far more likely to be assaulted, etc.

 

So regularly as if it's normal you say? That's a lie. This does not happen every day. Stop pushing the narrative cops are bad.

The left is the problem with all of the brain washing trying to convince everyone to defund the police and remove ice.

Also you all only show your side of the story which is usually b's. If he was wrongfully killed the cop should be punished but let's get both sides of the story first ok?

 

First and foremost, unarmed =/= not dangerous or not deadly. When are leftists going to realize this?

Next, watched the video, the cop was going up to the guy calmly until something made him jump back quickly. Couldn't see what. The article says no weapon was recovered, but what do they consider a weapon? I once talked to a probation officer that told me that anything can be considered a weapon. Even a toothpick. Most would disagree with that of course. I did notice what looked to be keys laying on the ground after the cop turned him over. Those can certainly be considered as a weapon if balled up in a fist with the keys sticking out. Don't think there hasn't been a single kid out there that hasn't done that and jabbed at the air because it looked cool. Note: I'm NOT saying that is what happened here, I'm not even sure they were keys. But something clearly spooked the cop when just moments before he had been walking up on the guy calmly.

In the end still not enough information to assert what actually happened. Lets wait to get the rest of the information shall we?

 

I would also add, after watching the entire video, that it annoys me greatly when cops act suspicious about their body cameras. In this case, his main focus was on getting permission to turn it off, and there seemed to be an unspoken understanding that they didn't want to talk about anything while it was still recording. This isn't the only officer I've seen act like that.

 

No, this is happening extremely rarely, the idea that this occurs more than it used to is BLM nonsense. I'm not sure about the shooting itself, we can't see what the suspect's left hand is doing.

 

Looked like a dead white guy. Most unusual.

 

Cops don't have Maranda rights now?

 

Of course they've still got them (sort of, see Garrity), but that doesn't mean their behavior doesn't cast a pall of suspicion on them and their entire department. And I've seen similar behavior in videos across quite a few departments in various states. It's enough of a frequent occurrence that I consider it a pattern.

 

Cops have training, equipment (including body armor etc.), backup, and weapons.

They have got to stop killing citizens and when they do, they need to be held accountable.
More often than not, they keep their careers and pensions, so this behavior is tacitly accepted.
This has got to change.

And , yes , this happens regularly.

 

Cops have all sorts of things working in their favor, including police unions. The biggest factor is the legal sophistry created by USSC called "Qualified Immunity", a complete travesty.

 

No, the police must be held to a different standard because they have to make split second life and death decisions without the benefit of hindsight, they should always be given the benefit of the doubt and allowed to make honest mistakes in the line duty. The lack of empathy some people have with them is utterly disgusting.

 

Qualified immunity is absolutely essential, who would be a police officer without it? The police unions are essential to fight for their members when the cowardly and hypocritical politicians throw them to the wolves in order to prevent black rioting,

 

Citizens have got to start listening to cops. When they say stop, you stop. When they say to lay on the ground, you lay on the ground. You don't keep walking toward them saying, "I've got my rights" or whatever they think they need to say.

Cops need to use the body cameras for their own sake. If they don't, it's on them and, yes, they should be held accountable when they screw up.

 

No, they should be held to the SAME standard as any other citizen.

If you want to hold them to a different standard, then you have to punish them more severely for crimes like corruption and murder. Conversely, when a citizen makes an “honest mistake “ and shoots or kills a policeman ( I.e. self defense, the officer never identified himself in the dark), they need to be held to the same standard. Crimes by and against police are the same as crimes by and against non police.

 

God bless the state.

 

Considering that the police in this country operated for many years without that legal sophistry, and that since that sophistry was concocted by Earl Warren in 1967, is it fair to ask how our police ever survived prior to 1967?

Is is relevant to note that since 1967 community relations with police have steadily declined? Is it fair to ask what good the notion has done for police and community relations?

 

Since money has always been the great equalizer in this country, how about this:

Drop the "qualified immunity" and replace it with "malpractice insurance". Police can buy coverage through their unions.
Citizens, or their estates will be able to sue personally to redress wrongs. Municipalities will be off the hook.
Insurance carriers will be happy.
Lawyers on both sides will be happy.
After a few bad shootings, bad cops won't be able to afford the premiums and will be effectively removed from their jobs.

Win-win all around !

 

Body cameras need to always be on and never have an on / off button. This cop didn't know about the look back feature but most cops do and keep their cameras off.

 

HIs left hand his clearly holding a cell phone straight in front of him.

 

The person they shot is white, please delete thread. We all know it doesn't matter when it happens to whites. Don't be confused by the name "Andre"....Person is white

 

we should all be able to come together and say enough is enough, shooting should not be the first course of action

we have gotten to the point where police shoot "just in case" vs when they really need to shoot

 

agree, turning off the camera is a sign of guilt in my opinion, trying to hide something

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/victim-columbus-police-shooting-identified-andre-hill-12-23-20

“It is unacceptable to me and to the community, that the officers did not turn on their cameras,” Ginther said. “Let me be clear. If you are not going to turn on your body-worn camera you cannot serve and protect the people of Columbus.”


other than going to the bathroom or other off duty functions, the cameras should be on at all times