Thank a liberal

Thank a liberal, because without them, we'd have a libertarian dog-eat-dog-I-got-mine-and-****-you world where greed is king and 'charity' is simply not a big enough enterprise to do the job.

Yeah, righties complaining about the woke crowd, many dems bitch about 'em, too.
You're not alone, there.


A Day in the Life of Sue Republican
Sue gets up at 6 a.m. and fills her coffeepot with water to prepare her morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards.
With her first swallow of coffee, she takes her daily medication. Her medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised. All but $10 of her medications are paid for by her employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Sue gets it too.
She prepares her morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Sue's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.
In the shower, Sue reaches for her shampoo. Her bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for her right to know what she was putting on her body and how much it contained.
Sue dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air she breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air.
She walks to the subway station for her government-subsidized ride to work. It saves her considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Sue begins her work day. She has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards.
Sue's employer pays these standards because Sue's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Sue is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, she'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think she should lose her home because of her temporary misfortune.
It's noon and Sue needs to make a bank deposit so she can pay some bills. Sue's deposit is federally insured by the FDIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Sue's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Sue has to pay her Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and her below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Sue and the government would be better off if she was educated and earned more money over her lifetime.
Sue is home from work. She plans to visit her father this evening at his farm home in the country. She gets in her car for the drive. Her car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards.
She arrives at her childhood home. Her generation was the third to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.
She is happy to see her father, who is now retired. Her father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Sue wouldn't have to.
Sue gets back in her car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Sue enjoys throughout her day. Sue agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm self-made and believe everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."

 

That's probably one reason why liberals are often confused with communists.
Obviously, some people love the law of the jungle and want to fight for survival every single day.

 

Many liberals of yesteryear, of which you are speaking, would be horrified at liberals of today. There's a reason that there is now a category of "classical liberal" in the books now. I wouldn't even classify many of today's "liberals" as being an actual liberal. More like "progressives" which make up the majority of the "woke crowd". These are the type of people that have thrown away common sense and favor things like canceling people because they refuse to say "they/them/their/zeh" when referring to someone's sex. These are the type of people that believe every white person is racist while no other race have racists in their group. These are the type of people that will riot at the drop of a hat and refuse to listen to facts, much less wait for the facts.

Your post also shows a decided lack of knowledge in the historical department.

Also, can't help but notice that it appears as if you copy/pasted that. Where'd you get it from? I'm rather skeptical as to you writing it.

 

And you can bet your rootie patootie the guys on fox and right wing media are going to make sure that that very small segment of the liberal wing is going to get ALL OF THE ****ING ATTENTION to make damn sure their flock are absolutely poisoned in their minds against democrats in order to further their right wing agenda. Your sentiment is evidence of it.

The piece is not meant to be a historical accounting but the general sense of it is basically right.

Which is precisely why I put it in italics ( to quote ) and gave it the headline, and I would have credited it, but the piece has been floating around the net anonymously for many years. If you had googled a segment of it, you'd have found that out.

Most of the hard fought things for labor, for labor rights, for safety standards, things that corporations fought against, which conservatives and libertarians fought against, were fought for by unions and union backing democrats, liberal democrats and liberal republicans, so the piece is a sentiment, which makes a general point, and an accurate one.

The fact is, conservatives have fought progressivism for years. It's not dems vs repubs, because historicaly speaking, both parties had various degrees of conservative and liberal wings, so it's liberals vs conservatives and conservative/libertarians. ( pure libertarians are wacko ).

So, though the piece is labeled 'A day in the life of Sue Republican' I would have, had I written it, labeled it as , A day in the life of Sue Conservative'

 

How about you thank an engineer. We are the people who invent and create EVERYHING that makes Western civilization..... you can't whine to the government for that.... people like me INVENT it. The left is actively and aggressively attacking the engineering profession by replacing the meritocracy with identity metrics (thank God it hasn't hit my company yet). I doubt they will succeed but if they do, it will mean the end of Western civilization.

 

Of course, but the gist of the piece is more about work place safety standards, benefits, that sort of thing.

I wouldn't attack the engineering profession.

Can you be specific on that point?

 

How does saying that most of the hard fought things for labor rights were fought for by unions and union backing democrats square with biden's killing of the Keystone Pipeline where thousands of union workers and family members are left out without a job and a viable life? You see here PDS, none of that hypothetical nonsense from your OP has any relation to today's progressive movement by the Democrat Party that is literally destroying the foundation of our American Dream, and the destruction of the unions are just the tip of the melting iceberg. So you won't be finding too many people thanking a liberal, especially after living through these first 100 days of the most extreme, radical, dangerous, and destructive presidency in American history.

 

i am am engineer, and readily admit that engineers had nothing to do with many of the necessities of western civilization. beanie babies, credit default swaps, my pillow, evangelical religion, racism, black lists, make your own list. western civilization is neither logical nor does it have internal consistency.

 

sounds like Sue had a wonderful day- what you would expect in a 1st world country for someone who was working

 

TL/DR ....BS

 

Maybe liberals should stop while they're ahead.

Fixed some of it for you. Meanwhile, in Venezuela, where the government is left wing socialist, Maria didn't have such a nice day.

 

Lols except for essentially everything you said is either false, causes an increase in costs, could have been better accomplished by private enterprise or is detrimental to the consumer.

Let’s start at the top.

#1) “The water is clean and good.” In many areas these regulations force you to close your well or not have one (which has good drinking water in and of itself) and get on what they claim is safer city water. City water which has been “cleaned” through multiple different processes and which they allow fluoride to be disseminated through. Why? Because stupid liberals don’t realize that most government regulation occurs after a problem has already occurred and usually performed in a manner which is more harmful overall than the problem caused in the first place.

#2) Medicine is provided by her employers medical plan. This is not a benefit to the consumer. This is a benefit to the business and a benefit to the insurance companies. If Sue didn’t have her healthcare provided by her employer, she would have a higher wage and could spend that money how she pleases. Not to mention if Sue was 22 and didn’t need the healthcare, she’s being forced to have her wages cut in order to pay for the healthcare she doesn’t need and doesn’t want. In reality she’s paying for other people’s healthcare because she doesn’t need it.

#3) Meat packing industry is regulated. Same issues as #1. Moreover this could be better accomplished at cheaper prices through market demand. If the meat company doesn’t regulate itself, the market will produce meat companies which do regulate themselves, because people will refuse to purchase from businesses with tainted meat. This is 2021, people have access to all information at their fingertips. This isn’t 1878 where they could lie about what they produced and people would be none the wiser.

#4) same issues as 1 and 3. Furthermore every single one of these “regulations” costs a good business owner who has NO intention of producing a shoddy product. Which means even though he wants to sell you his perfectly good product for 1.50, he now has to sell it to you at 3.50 because of unnecessary regulation upon himself and his suppliers.

#5) Clean air by liberals. This is just factually incorrect as evidenced by this map: https://us-static.z-dn.net/files/d06/6640256fe676e6445177db775ee7e266.png

If you’ll notice the most polluted areas for emissions are in liberal strongholds. Why? Because like all other government regulations, they rarely fix the actual problem, they simply increase the costs of doing business.

#6) subsidized ride to work. “Critics argue it would be cheaper to subsidize car ownership for low-income people than transit service. For example, Castelazo and Garrett (2004) calculate it would be cheaper to provide free cars to the 14% of St. Louis rail transit riders that lack automobiles, than to subsidize that service. Cox (2004) claims that carsharing subsidies for non-drivers would be cheaper than U.S. transit subsidies.”

Now let’s consider how many people get robbed, assaulted, sexually assaulted, raped and murdered using public transit. Would those people have been safer in their own cars? Of course. But even if not, for the cost of subsidizing Sue’s morning commute, she could have a subsidized vehicle instead. But the liberals want to make that decision for her because, as is the problem with all progressive ideology, the progressive elite predicate their ideology upon the idea that they are better capable of making decisions with your money than you are. As the original writer so eloquently demonstrated.

#7) Sue has good pay, benefits, retirement etc because of liberals. She would have those things ANYWAY in a competitive marketplace AND she would most likely have a pension which the unions and liberals killed off as a byproduct of their stupid government regulations.

# Workmans comp and unemployment. Both issues which are EASILY addressed by the private individual who has the personal accountability and resources to do so. Meaning instead of the employer being forced to pay for a ton extra regulation that should be the responsibility of the employee, the employer could offer a MUCH higher wage which would allow the employer to purchase long and short term disability as well as unemployment insurance and have money left over to purchase whatever they’d like every month. But they can’t because their employer is paying for those regulations on something Sue most likely will not use or will use sparingly at best.

#9) The banking system. Are you referring to the massively over regulated, bloated, red-tape filled, risky and detrimental to the consumer banking industry the liberals have created? The one that used to see interest rates well into the double digits on savings accounts but which now see less than 2%? Lol yeah great job there. Way to go.

#10) Fannie Mae and student loan. If her loan was performed by Fannie its highly likely that Sue wouldn’t have qualified for the loan to begin with. Meaning Sue doesn’t have the necessary funding to be able to pay back her loan should a problem arise. Which most likely means that at some point Sue is going to default on her mortgage, go into bankruptcy, lose her house and refuse to pay her student loans back and demand everyone else pay it for her.

All because some godless, stupid liberal (Barney Frank) thought they were doing a good thing by giving loans to people, who didn’t qualify for those loans to begin with, through Fannie and Freddie. Causing the market crash of 2008.

I could go on but you get the drift.

 

And yet the greedy capitalist opposed everything on the list, so no credit

 

And the tree hugger opposes many of the people who make the products he couldn't get by without. So, no credit.

 

Well, you certainly destroyed the theme of the OP. Haven't seen you around here. You got to come out from the Shadows more often to help straighten out these lefties.

 

That's funny considering I don't watch Fox. Don't even have cable tv or satellite. Haven't for 20 years. But your response is typical of leftists. If someone disagrees then they're just brainwashed Fox viewing noobs. (at best)

IE: Propaganda piece. Use parts of history and ignore other parts of history in order to push an agenda.

At least you said "most". In any case, why should I google it? Its not my job to provide links to something you post. That's your job.

And of course conservatives have fought progress and liberals have always fought conservatives. The reason is in their names. And they're both essential, and neither side is evil or bad in and of themselves. But there are extreme's on both sides that should be checked by both sides.

 

This isn't quite true. Henry Ford for example was a conservative and anti-semite and many other things. But he was actually quite liberal when it came to his employees paying them almost double the minimum wage when even the unions at the time wouldn't advocate for such. And he hated unions.

 

The problem is that you actually believe all that garbage.

 

If I liked it you probably won't

 

I suppose that's mostly true. Government regulation usually comes as a result of personal/corporate greed making conditions unsafe, unhealthy, or financially detrimental to society. Or people making irresponsible, uniformed decisions like using unhealthy well water to drink.

 

Post of the Year material here!

Tremendous work, as usual, Pat

Really highlights just how clueless most righties are

They literally don't have the brainpower to see the forest for the trees.

They're such easy marks for the disgraceful, pathetic hustlers like "BAD FOR AMERICA" hannity and angry levin on right-wing propaganda radio, and on right-wing garbage outlets like faux news...

 

You might want to get a full look-see at post #13 by the great ShadowX as he blew that complete nonsense post you refer to out of the water. Interesting that you call Hannity and Levin as putting out RIGHT-WING propaganda for everyone knows that approximately 95% of the lame street media and 100% of the democrat politicians are putting out propaganda 24/7, as the last 4 years of the Russian hoax will attest to.

 

You usually do "like" you some BS...

 

Quite a collection of rambling right-wing drivel in Post 13

But scrolling thru his/her predictable crap reminded me of an EPI report that I read a couple months before last year's election which basically destroyed the trump/republican misguided war on regulations...

The Conclusion...

Regulations establish the rules of the game and assure important protections for working people. Corporations and wealthy special interests have demonstrated that—if there’s nothing stopping them—they will do what they can to squeeze out more profits for themselves, even if it means jeopardizing workers’ health and safety and retirement funds. The Great Recession is proof that it is dangerous to assume that corporations and Wall Street will police themselves. American workers deserve a fair system—with rules that serve their interests as opposed to deregulating to rig the system so that corporate interests can rake in ever-larger profits at the expense of workers. The Trump administration and congressional Republicans have spent an enormous amount of time and political capital in their first year in control doing exactly that—by painting regulations as the “problem.” It is time to end this deception and return to defending the rules that protect workers, consumers, and public health.

https://www.epi.org/publication/deregulation-year-in-review/