4 million quit their job in April, CITE LACK OF PAY FOR NOT SEEKING NEW JOB.

So, now it is the people making more than minimum wage that are staying home for the 300 bucks a week from the Govt that ends in less than 80 days, if it has not already ended?

I find that sort of hard to believe.

 

The market will work it out.

 

You didnt say "right place at the right time" in the post of yours to which I responded. If that had been your words, I would not have responded. You specifically said "most of the richest people on earth have no work ethic and were given a silver spoon.", and it was to that notion that I crafted my response.

Now that I show you the 10 richest people in the world and as the reality sets in that most of them were NOT given a silver spoon, you want to bogusly pretend like your words were "right place and right time". Do you think that change is credible?.....or do you think it is obvious that your initial statement was proven wrong and now you want to act as if you had said something different and bogusly asserting that you were NOT wrong? Did you REALLY think that I would not notice this drastic change in your statement?

Obviously, it was the latter. You are fooling no one other than perhaps yourself. The only person in this conversation on this subject matter that has "much to learn" is obviously you, as evidenced by the inarguable fact that your words were proven wrong with a credible link and that you then felt the need to pretend like you said something different than what you actually did say.

Much to learn indeed.

 

Working it out by the market will inevitably result in pain for the consumer and employees.

Are you under the impression a liberal government will allow the market to work it out on its on?

 

It wasn't a comment of disagreement, but of factual observation- and one that far too few recognize. Your post spoke only of paying people more, kind of skipped over the part of their contribution being worth what that pay was. IF we arbitrarily increase wages as so many want (thinking a $15 minimum would be great) then we also raise the costs (and wages) of everything and everyone, and none benefit. Paying for productivity and value is totally different, that's good for both sides of the relationship.

 

As is often the case

 

What is the "worth" of a person's labor who isn't working because they're living on the "wages" given to them by the government?

 

However much their getting.

 

So the worth of a person's labor is based upon what they're getting, and not what they're giving? And this still applies even if they're giving nothing?

Sounds like running the world on magical unicorn farts to me.

 

Oh my, I find it hard to believe you are that oblivious. Many people found it easier to not work and receive the extra taxpayer funds who make well above FMW. It was $600, then $300 a week, and that's still $1200 a month. Per person who had been working.

Many States have already set an end date, and funny that, the people that 'couldn't find work' before, are suddenly finding work....

$300 Unemployment Benefits: When It Starts & How Long It Lasts (debt.org)

 

Perhaps I am just naïve, but how many people can live on 1200 bucks a month? That is not even close to a good week, let alone month's pay.

Thanks for the link, the Fed UE ends sooner than I thought, I thought it was the 30. glad to know it is sooner

 

It started at $600 a week. That's $2400 per month, on top of the standard UE benefits, per working person. Then the rent moratorium, and the eviction moratorium... no need to pay for your housing! Utilities were allowing late payments no penalty, so exactly what were people's expenses? Loan companies were allowing people to not make payments (rolling interest into the loan extensions) since it was better then a whole bunch of repos. Most weren't driving to work, so no gas expense other than to get groceries or seek medical assistance.

 

And despite all that didn't consumer borrowing just recently hit an all time high????

 

Cons have repeatedly told me that whatever wage an employer is paying the employee is fair because they both agreed to it.

 

Once again, the government is the problem, not the solution. Cut off the free money and wait until they get hungry. They'll be more than happy to flip burgers and do all kinds of things for minimum wage.

And if they don't like flipping burgers, I suggest they start their own business....and figure out what the real world is.

 

if they quit, they do not get unemployment, they have to be laid off

 

yep, only way to get people to work for slave wages right?

 

Cons don't like workers to make a decent wage.

 

Oh yeah, slave wages. Not so long ago...at all...college grads weren't making $15 bucks an hour. When I graduated college, I don't think I made $15 bucks an hour considering I was on salary and working well more than 40 hours/week.

I worked 60+ hours/week right out of high school for years....at minimum wage when it was less than $5 bucks. These turds that demand a 'living wage'....I suggest they work 60 hours/week or just shut the hell up.

You won't catch me crying to big brother government looking for free handouts, ever. I find it repulsive that so many now demand 'a living wage' when they aren't worth $2 bucks/hour.....and they turn down GOOD jobs to sit on their lazy asses at home.....getting gov checks paid for by ME.

The problem with socialism is that sooner or later the government runs out of other people's money. Bring the collapse on....those of us that work for a living will survive. It's the freeloaders that won't.

 

look at the min wage history, it used to rise much more than it does now, that is a big part of why society is now taking a hit

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/minimum-wage/history/chart

sure some people said it was the end of the world each time then too

the price of low wages is more welfare.... so which do you want?

 

That's only going to happen if parents make it happen. It's not up to the State to ensure your kids have it 'easy and comfortable' going forward, it's on you. If it matters to you (as a parent), then you'll do whatever it takes. If it doesn't matter to you, you'll do nothing and hope the State picks up your slack.

 

Isn't that how the world is run?

Whaddaya sayin' to me, Party Pooper? Are you saying the free stuff has all been some kind of dream, and can't exist in reality?

 

Cons are the ones that want free stuff.

 

so they went from a lack of pay, to no pay at all?

 

No you aren't easy to say much harder to do. Increases in minimum wage simply screws all other workers.