What Life is like in America's most vaccinated State?

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  1. ToddWB

    ToddWB Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you also don't realize that the demonrats are bussing your fellow voters and illegal aliens everywhere.
     
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    How many have been bussed to Florida? Would you care to share the information on the resettling of those bussed immigrants?
     
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    I have no idea if the numbers are right or wrong or what tests are now being used or method of determining death.
    But I'm vaccinated. So not really worried about it.
     
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    ToddWB Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No.. I have better things to do thatn support your inability to seek truth. I have been lied to by the govt about so many things regarding this flu that i do not see why I should trust them now.. they may be right about the vaccine, but who really knows? You guinea pig it.. and a year from now if it looks safe. oh yeah.. I still won't take it.. it never have taken the flu shot. BTW the first lie is that it is a 'vaccine" go look it up your self.. you seem to have plenty of time to waste here.. so go do a little Socratic learning.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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  6. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's your proof:


    Higher COVID Rate Found In Some Counties With Higher Vaccination Rate

    A new analysis finds several counties with above-average vaccination rates also have higher COVID case rates, while case rates are falling in counties with below-average vaccination rates.

    https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2021/07/26/covid-vaccination-california-counties/
     
  7. nopartisanbull

    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    If you have no idea if the numbers are right or wrong, it means that you've never graduated Grade 6.

    There are several methods of determing PCR's test accuracy.............

    1. The easiest/fastest method, but less accurate;

    Pandemic Averages;

    a. Average number of days from being infected to being hospitalized; 14 days............Pandemic average

    b. Average number of days covid patients were hospitalized; 14 days.............Pandemic average

    c. Texas Case Fatality Rate since the pandemic began, thus, Total Deaths DIVIDED by Total Cases

    Work Sheet;

    Calculate Texas Case Fatality Rate, last 4 weeks.........

    Total number of covid coded deaths from 14 July to 28 July (51,949 - 51,549) = 400 deaths

    DIVIDED by

    Total number of daily cases from 30 June to July 14 (3,014,430 - 2,988,457) = 25,833 cases

    Texas Case Fatality Rate, last 4 weeks; 400 deaths DIVIDED by 25,833 cases = 1.54%

    Texas Case Fatality Rate since the pandemic began; 51,949 deaths DIVIDED by 3,088,316 cases = 1.68%

    A differential of 0.14%, meaning the reported number of new daily cases were accurate.

    Note: 25,833 cases X a differential of 0.14% = 36 wrong results out of 25,833 tests.

    Also, RATIONALLY, ''due to faulty/useless PCR tests'' blah blah blah, if we were to reduce the number of positive cases by 10%, thus, 25,833 - 10% = 23,249 positive cases, it would increase the Case Fatality Rate, thus, 400 deaths DIVIDED by 23,249 cases = 1.72% versus a pandemic average of 1.68%. In addition, according to the Republicans, Delta's Case Fatality Rate is significantly lower than Alpha's CFR.

    Conclusion; Is my quick method of determining Texas PCR test accuracy, accurate enough for you? If not, then I'll show you the most accurate method, thus, to the nearest 0.05%.

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    NOTE: Above-mentioned Covid19 numbers reported by Greg Abbott's Department of Health

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Texas
     
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    Your insult aside, your logic is bad. It doesn't show PCR test accuracy AT ALL. You're assuming the tests are accurate to get the numbers on which you base your calculations.
     
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    Freedom to wear a mask indoors now according to the CDC.
     
  10. nopartisanbull

    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    Well, let's switch the word ''accuracy'' to ''most accurate, and reliable''

    COVID-19 and PCR Testing
    The nose swab PCR test for COVID-19 is the most accurate and reliable test for diagnosing COVID-19. A positive test means you likely have COVID-19. A negative test means you probably did not have COVID-19 at the time of the test. Get tested if you have symptoms of COVID-19 or have been exposed to someone who tested positive for COVID-19.

    https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diagnostics/21462-covid-19-and-pcr-testing

    AND according to my calculations, plus or minus a few percent, STILL RELIABLE..............Definitely NOT useless, and/or unreliable.
     
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    LOL, must be why it was pulled.
     
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    LOL, moving the goalposts. Typical. And your math doesn't prove PCR accuracy one way or the other. Why you'd think it does show the level of false positives or negatives is bizarre.


    WHO (finally) admits PCR tests create false positives
    https://off-guardian.org/2020/12/18/who-finally-admits-pcr-tests-create-false-positives/
    Many articles have been written about it, by many experts in the field, medical journalists and other researchers. It’s been commonly available knowledge, for months now, that any test using a CT value over 35 is potentially meaningless.

    Notionally, the system has produced its miracle cure. So, after everyone has been vaccinated, all the PCR tests being done will be done “under the new WHO guidelines”, and running only 25-30 cycles instead of 35+.
     
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    Over a million illegal aliens have been arrested crossing the border this fiscal year [and that doesn't count the unknown numbers of illegals who have entered without arrest.] Many of those arrested refuse to be tested for covid. The ones who are tested positive for covid can not be kept at temporary border facilities. They are put on buses and shipped elsewhere inside the USA. God knows where. Months ago I saw a TV interview with a mayor of a small Arizona town who said a bus load of illegal aliens were dumped in their city center in spite of the fact that the town was not able to manage the cost to house and feed them [wonder how many of them had covid ??]

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    You can still kill grandma.
     
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    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    ONCE AGAIN, Texas DoH Number of confirmed covid cases do correlate with their number of hospitalizations, and deaths. Plus or minus a 1/4 of a percent, who gives a phook?
     
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    You’ll be really hard pressed to twist numbers to make it seem like FL has done worse than CA or NY. Remind us how many died in nursing homes in NY? We may never truly know because Cuomo has hidden or erased those statistics. Caught red handed. Let’s talk more about how NY handled nursing homes shall we. Cuomo is directly responsible for, what is it, 10,000 dead specially because he forced the sick back into nursing homes with those that weren’t infected.

    Oh please. Get the frack off CNN. It rots your brain.
     
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    Confirmed how, lol? With PCR tests?
     
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    How do you guys know your are '"free"?
    Maybe the people injected with the Corona/Covid drugs are the source
    of a long stream of new "variants" as has been predicted by doctors.
     
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    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    You still don't get it!

    Quiz.......

    1. We have 1,000 covid deaths

    2. The Case Fatality Rate equates to 1%

    3. Calculate the number of cases
     
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    Still missing the point. If the PCR tests reliably produce false positives at certain cycle levels, your math would just overcount the numerator and denominator.

    Basic 6th grade math.
     
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    In other words you have no proof of the claim you made about illegals being bused all over the US. That’s all you had to say.
     
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    Having to perform for your freedom is the absence of freedom.

    They should have never taken it away.
     
  23. nopartisanbull

    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    Quote: IF the PCR tests reliably produce false positives

    Thank you for using the word ''IF'', because there are hundreds of scholarity articles re-affirming that PCR test are not prone to false positives, and I don't want to debate conspiracy manure.
     
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    "Conspiracy manure" = "facts I can't refute and don't like".

    Meanwhile, the CDC is abandoning the PCR test, lol. So, not only did you misread and misunderstand my initial post you've been arguing against (while insulting me at the same time, lol) , you now are calling facts you don't like "conspiracy". Tsk tsk.


    https://justthenews.com/politics-po...c-will-move-away-covid-tests-pose-risks-false
    Those risks have been acknowledged by multiple prominent public health figures, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, chief medical adviser to President Biden and the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

    In a July 2020 interview on an infectious disease podcast, Fauci warned that the sensitive PCR tests might, if allowed to progress through too many amplification cycles, return a "positive" result when it was actually just detecting "dead nucleotides."

    The World Health Organization earlier this year warned in a medical product alert that PCR tests carry with them the risk of "false positives" because the test might only be picking up small fragments of the virus via heavy amplification.

    "[D]isease prevalence alters the predictive value of test results; as disease prevalence decreases, the risk of false positive increases," the alert stated. "This means that the probability that a person who has a positive result (SARS-CoV-2 detected) is truly infected with SARS-CoV-2 decreases as prevalence decreases, irrespective of the claimed specificity."
     
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    We here n the good old USA have had the highest rates of Covid and the highest death toll from it from day one and that is persisting throughout the Delta variant as it did with the first variant.
     

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