What's down the road? Will non-vaccinated people eventually have to wear a star on their chest?

Discussion in 'Coronavirus Pandemic Discussions' started by Fred68, Sep 20, 2021.

PF does not allow misinformation. However, please note that posts could occasionally contain content in violation of our policies prior to our staff intervening. We urge you to seek reliable alternate sources to verify information you read in this forum.

  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LOL, thanks for proving my point.
     
  2. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2018
    Messages:
    32,335
    Likes Received:
    15,853
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No one will be ordered to wear stars or anything else on their clothes.
     
    Joe knows likes this.
  3. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2018
    Messages:
    32,335
    Likes Received:
    15,853
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So you DO think "growing" tired is equivalent to Nazi Germany. Yikes.
    I don't defend Biden's statement because I think his statement was stupid.
     
  4. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2020
    Messages:
    7,767
    Likes Received:
    3,815
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Haven't eaten inside a restaurant since before this all started and have no intention to anytime in the near future and I have had my shots. I don't have as much faith that the jabs are as magical as some people do. I have also continued to social distance and wear my mask as my "Yellow Star". I don't like them and they are no longer mandatory, but Delta is a game changer. I am not an OCD germaphobe. I just think that the data isn't adding up about how effective jabs are. I pointed out the other day that more people per month are dying under Biden and in the vaccine era than died under Trump pre-vaccine. I've noticed a hell of a lot more people are wearing masks locally over the last week or so as the number of cases and deaths have dramatically turned up around here.
     
    ChiCowboy likes this.
  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just proof of vaccination. No, not the same at all. LOL
     
  6. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2018
    Messages:
    32,335
    Likes Received:
    15,853
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So you agree no one is being ordered to wear anything on their clothes. Cool. BTW...where else is the absurd restaurant mandate in place?
     
  7. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Its called an analogy.
     
  8. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2018
    Messages:
    32,335
    Likes Received:
    15,853
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And a dumb one
     
  9. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Forget history and you will tend to repeat it. The unvaccinated are being relegated to second class citizens. If you don’t see it you have blinders on.
     
  10. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2018
    Messages:
    32,335
    Likes Received:
    15,853
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No they're not. More hyperbole. To my knowledge this is only occurring in NYC. And it's quite a leap to go from needing proof of vaccination in NYC restaurants to Nazi Germany.
     
  11. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    https://myvaccinerecord.cdph.ca.gov/
     
  12. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2021
    Messages:
    14,035
    Likes Received:
    8,283
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The point is as president Benedict Donald became so manic he was a danger to everyone on the planet. And would be worse if reelected.
     
  13. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2018
    Messages:
    32,335
    Likes Received:
    15,853
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So there's an ability to have one's vaccination info on their phone if they want. And? All this proves is that there is yet another thing people can choose to have in their phone.
     
    Noone and ChiCowboy like this.
  14. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2015
    Messages:
    23,076
    Likes Received:
    14,142
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Maybe it's a Nazi cellphone? Just a guess here...

    One things for sure. Both sides do not agree as the OP proclaimed.
     
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2021
  15. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LOL, if you think he would launch a nuclear strike on China I have a bridge you might be interested in purchasing.
     
  16. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2021
    Messages:
    14,035
    Likes Received:
    8,283
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No you don't.
     
  17. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    5,903
    Likes Received:
    2,273
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We are fast becoming dependent upon vaccines for just about everything these days. Some day that vaccine dam is going to break, and it probably won't be a pretty sight.
     
  18. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    13,637
    Likes Received:
    10,024
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I agree to a small extent. I don’t believe he admires Hitler but I do think he has a longing for ultimate power
     
    Noone likes this.
  19. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    13,637
    Likes Received:
    10,024
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Nazi germany didn’t happen over night. Hitler was in power for 6 years before the war started.

    The murder of Jews was started 5 years after his election. The first major step in the murder of Jews I believe was Kristallnacht or the Night of the Broken Glass. This was almost like a riot that turned violent to murder. Took its name from all the broken glass from businesses.

    Before that night there was a lengthy campaign to dehumanize them. When they went to war the Jews were also blamed for the war. The campaign to dehumanize them was very long and gradually laws came around that economically and socially segregated them. Some coming from provenances and some coming from the state.

    In comparison there are people blaming the unvaccinated for deaths of others, they are making laws to force tests upon the unvaccinated and economically opening the door to be discriminated in the work the place and market place. To claim there is no early comparison is to claim is crazy to me.
     
  20. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2018
    Messages:
    32,335
    Likes Received:
    15,853
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What laws? I don’t believe any laws have been made at this point regarding mandating vaccines. You’re letting your emotions get the best of you. This comparison to early Nazi Germany is absolutely absurd.
     
  21. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    13,637
    Likes Received:
    10,024
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You can call them rules if that’s what you like because I suppose that would be what the OSHA rules are. OSHA is going to make a rule to force tests on the unvaccinated. Although the disease can be carried and spread by both only one class will get the tests. They also will fine any company that doesn’t abide to these segregated tests. That’s an economic impact and a social impact.

    New York (in comparison to a provenance in Germany) has made laws to not allow unvaccinated in certain businesses, this includes customers and employees. This is definitely a social and economic segregation.

    you can’t argue that the dehumanization of the unvaccinated has not started.
     
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2021
  22. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2018
    Messages:
    32,335
    Likes Received:
    15,853
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's been confirmed OSHA is definitely going to institute a rule to force tests on the unvaccinated? Do you have a source that confirms this?
    I don't believe NY made any 'laws' to not allow unvaccinated in certain businesses. And it is in no way social or economic segregation as the vaccine is free.
     
  23. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    13,637
    Likes Received:
    10,024
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/business-58204471.amp

    And it is social and economic segregation. Cost can be weighed in more ways than money. Some refuse to put it in their body for physical costs. Worried about bad side effects or allergic reactions for example.

    the reason it’s economic segregation is because it can cause them to lose their jobs, it’s social segregation because they are not allowed as customers as well.
     
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2021
  24. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2018
    Messages:
    32,335
    Likes Received:
    15,853
    Trophy Points:
    113
  25. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    13,637
    Likes Received:
    10,024
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Oh no, that article is fact. It clearly states the laws in that article. It also says that San Francisco is also passing laws like that. The segregation of the unvaccinated is real.
     

Share This Page