The Attempt to Establish a Climate Ministry of Truth

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  1. bringiton

    bringiton Well-Known Member

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    No, it has been demonstrated countless times, including in posts on this forum.
    No, what I have and you will never have is actual physical events.
    The climategate emails already proved it's more than a theory.
     
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    You don't even care about the possibility that FREE SPEECH rights are being eroded right in front of you.

    Wow!
     
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    The narrative must be protected from data.
    BBC Censors their Own Climate Change Page
    Eric Worrall
    The BBC has caved in to pressure from climate activists and academics, to remove any suggestion warmer temperatures might bring benefits to people living in Britain.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mostly as a result of my taking the weather course mandated to get the pilots license, when in 1980 nobody was raising hell about climate, I saw the scientific system used on weather. Climate is just drawn out weather.

    Pilots are keenly aware of climate and weather. Anyway I mused then, say, what about all of Earth's massive cloud cover. Why was this ignored by the media in particular.
    Anyway, seeing the fraud I never believed in this kick called global warming.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look at the hottest dates of record in these states.

    Super records. Back when?

    State, federal district, or territory Record high temperature Date
    Idaho
    118 °F (48 °C) July 28, 1934
    Illinois 117 °F (47 °C) July 14, 1954
    Indiana 116 °F (47 °C) July 14, 1936
    Iowa 118 °F (48 °C) July 20, 1934
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She is in Australia so lets learn when the hottest day on record was in that country.

    2 January 1960

    The hottest day on record for the whole of Australia was recorded as 50.7 °C (123.3 °F) at Oodnadatta on 2 January 1960, which is the highest official temperature recorded in Australia.

    Angry Summer - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Angry_Summer
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pick any country. Notice their record temperature plus the date.
    I bet you are shocked that in the past, temperatures were higher than today.
     
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    In the absence of evidence, the alarmists ramp up the rhetoric.
     
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    This is genuine Ministry of Truth Newspeak.
    Media Misrepresents Study Showing Cold Related Deaths Outnumber Heat Related Deaths Ten-to-One
    MORTALITY JULY 9, 2021

    A news release sent to media yesterday via the science press channel known as Eurekalert has been getting coverage, but not for the right reason. Eurekalert’s release, titled “5 million deaths a year caused by global climate related abnormal temps,” implies researchers at Monash University are claiming global warming is causing excess deaths. In truth, the Monash University study confirms what other studies have consistently shown, cold temperatures contribute to far more deaths each year than warmer temperatures and temperature related deaths are declining.

    Media outlets such as Bloomberg and The Guardian immediately pounced on Eurekalert’s headline, implying extreme heat caused by climate change was causing 5 million deaths each year. In fact, heat was only responsible for a small portion of those. . . .
     
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    You know a cult is in rapid decline when all they've got left is wild persecution fantasies. We're watching the denier cult collapse before our eyes.
     
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    Does this mean you have no counterpoint to offer?

    So far you said nothing but putdowns and stupid retorts.

    :police:
     
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    :lol: :lol: :lol: "Wild persecution fantasies"? You mean, like wildly fantasizing that people could actually be sued for stating a dissenting scientific viewpoint....?

    Oh, no wait a minute, that's right: people actually HAVE been sued for stating a scientific viewpoint dissenting from the CO2-controls-climate dogma:

    https://www.thegwpf.com/media-ignores-michael-manns-court-loss-it-doesnt-fit-the-warmist-agenda/

    Or do you mean wildly fantasizing that government and academic officials would try to arrange for their criminal prosecution for stating a dissenting scientific viewpoint...?

    Oh, no, wait a minute, that's right: government officials HAVE tried to arrange for people's criminal prosecution for stating a scientific viewpoint dissenting from the CO2-controls-climate dogma:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/punishing-climate-change-skeptics-1458772173

    Or do you mean wildly fantasizing that the CO2-controls-climate cult could actually advocate CAPITAL PUNISHMENT for stating a dissenting scientific viewpoint...?

    Oh, no, wait a minute, that's right: the CO2-controls-climate cult HAS ALREADY ADVOCATED CAPITAL PUNISHMENT for stating a scientific viewpoint dissenting from the CO2-controls-climate dogma:

    https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/201...utt-death-penalty-for-global-warming-deniers/

    So, exactly which form of wild persecution are you claiming is fantasy and not reality, hmmmmmm?

    All cults claim that they have a monopoly on some vital, revolutionary truth, and if people do not join them and abandon their current beliefs and behavior, they will suffer some terrible doom. Attentive -- and honest -- readers may have noticed that that is exactly what anti-CO2 scaremongers do, and no climate realist has ever done. No cult ever told people that their accustomed beliefs and behavior were perfectly fine and would not cause a problem. Cults never do that. Ever. But climate realists skeptical of the CO2-controls-climate dogma do.

    You have just been proved objectively wrong again.
    Exactly. The climate science denier cult that claims fossil fuel use will doom us all to be roasted alive is collapsing before our eyes. When the lying fools claim that drought in the USA and floods in Europe are both caused by fossil fuel use, you know the scam has just about run its course. And more and more people every day are catching on that that is exactly what it is: a scam.
     
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    Do you understand that your made-up pseudoscience getting laughed out of the room is not "censorship"?

    Nobody gives crazy people a seat at the table. The crazy people scream that's censorship, but since they're crazy people, nobody cares.
     
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    Empty bluster.
     
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    Then you have nothing after all, thanks for making that clear to everyone.

    :roflol:
     
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    The real made-up pseudoscience is climate models based on wildly unrealistic assumptions like no effect of solar activity other than TSI, and massive positive water vapor feedback.
    No one claimed that laughter is censorship. You simply made that up, like almost everything else you say about climate realists. What is censorship is forcible deplatforming, dismissals from academic positions, lawsuits, and threats of criminal prosecution up to and including CAPITAL PUNISHMENT for stating scientific opinions that dissent from the CO2-controls-climate dogma.
    They most certainly do. Trump met with Kim Jong Un, as just one example. That would be two crazy people at the table, and no non-crazies.
    The crazy people would be the ones who claim CO2 controls climate, as is becoming increasingly obvious.
     
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    The alarmists are losing the scientific debate, so they're trying enforce their agenda through the courts.
    Update On The International Efforts To Save The Planet Through Climate Litigation
    August 29, 2021/ Francis Menton

    • Having had a long career in the litigation business, I have a well-developed appreciation for the limits on what can be accomplished through lawsuits. Among litigators, the line “Let’s sue the bastards” is always good for a laugh, in rueful recognition of the enormous amounts of effort that can be expended for little, or even negative, results.

    • But the green environmental movement appears to have both near infinite funding and legions of adherents filled with crazed religious zeal. When somebody in this crowd blurts out “Let’s sue the bastards,” the funding immediately emerges, and ideologue lawyers line up to compete for the gig.

    • So somehow these guys got the idea of suing national governments on the theory that “fundamental human rights” are threatened by climate change.

    • Would that allegation be enough to get one or a few judges to order the judicial takeover of entire national economies to force the lowering of CO2 emissions?
    READ MORE
     
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    Creation of the Ministry of Truth is well under way. Peer reviewed science can be set aside on a whim.
    Facebook Fact Checkers Just Censored Peer Reviewed Science
    Eric Worrall
    Dr. Willie Soon an Dr. Ronan Connolly discussing the chilling effect on scientific inquiry, of Facebook’s apparent policy of shutting down mentions of published, peer reviewed papers their inexpert fact…
     
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