Do You Prefer Capitalism or Socialism?

Yet what? That made no sense, Young Tiggs.

 

I think you're trying to say that doing a job for money is bad (incidentally, a thought not usually associated with the lower socio economic orders ... where I come from), but somehow doing a job for money when it doesn't serve the community, is more moral than doing a job for a non-profit which directly improves the lives of struggling people.

Not sure what planet you inhabit, Ole Tiggs, but it's not the one I'm on!

 

Just used the same YET as you did.

 

Nope. Doing a vocation JUST for the money is bad.

Meaningless and false claim. You are being paid to help people you clearly despise, I suggest you change career

 

I was right. That was what you were saying.

So people who earn a living from helping others are 'yuk', but people who earn a living from not helping others are saints.

 

Repeating yourself does not make you right.

 

No, that's what you're saying.

You seem to have an aversion to people receiving wages for 'social' work.

 

I really don't believe that there are adults that are still niavè enough to believe the "of the people, by the people, for the people" myth!

 

Not interested in your endless repeating.

 

It's okay, they're not actually people. They're oversized teenagers, mostly from middle class families and bored to death by their own safety.

 

Socialism is simply Democratic fair capitalism. Communism not.

 

What is "communism"? Do you know? It doesn't look like it.

 

Would you prefer a government like that if it were possible?

 

...which is why SOMEBODY needs to advance some education on the subject.

 

What's stopping you?

 

The People who spruik "For The People" don't want to do the "By The People" part, so it's not possible.

 

Well, it's a moot point because it's not.

That said...no. I don't believe in Democracy. I have no more right to pick what leaders you should follow as you do to choose my sexual partner. Democracy is tyranny of the majority...two wolves and a sheep picking dinner.

 

I disagree with your view here Ted, but I love this description and I'm sure I'll use it elsewhere.

 

A dictatorship that owns all business and industry. Everybody knows. But English speaking supercapitalistic brainwashed can't tell the difference between socialism and communism despite what every socialist in the world says AARGH h

 

That's why we have judicial thank you very much. Democracy is not perfect but it is the best thing there is. The cure for any problems in democracy is more democracy. And judicial of course lol. And education dammit

 

That's not what communism is, my Dude. What you've described is totalitarianism, and is a political model.

Communism is an economic model. It's also fundamentally the same as socialism - because they're both COLLECTIVISM. Small group - shared resources - voluntary involvement.

 

No it isn't.
Communism: a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs.
All the government in communism does is try to carry out the will of the people (assuming it is communism) which is an impossible task as it relies on everyone playing fair and being equally able.
Socialism does nothing similar.

 

1) Yes, that's exactly right. The collective ownership of property, purchased and maintained via the labour of the collective. However, that last 'according to ability and needs' bit is wrong. That's the BS as trucked by the Russian Elites (or whoever) to make it more attractive, and which cannot be sustained in reality. There is no room for 'according to' in terms of ability or preference - and only a small amount for need. If you want a completely personalised existence, collectivism isn't for you.

2) Govt cannot do communism, because any mandatory form is a contradiction of the premise of collectivism (ie shared ownership and control). It's also a guarantee of failure - because there can never be a 'will of the people' sufficiently large enough to sustain it.

3) Socialism is just the Soft Sell version, preferred by democracy-loving First Worlders. It's the same animal, make no mistake.

 

Obviously a government that owns all business and industry is an economic model for crying out loud lol. And that will only happen in a dictatorship because people hate it lol. Socialism won in France Germany Italy Spain Scandinavia with socialist parties in democracies. England got lucky after world war II. America is the only modern country that doesn't have socialism but English speakers don't know what socialism is, they conflate it with communism. Really successful supercapitalist propaganda from the champions of monopolies, England. A Democratic Fair capitalist country with a good safety net Is socialism, ask any socialist. Stop babbling and listen to someone who knows.

 

Democracy is hardly trivia lol. Time it is a dictatorship, socialism is a democracy with all that entails. You guys go on forever don't you