How is Trump bringing us to the brink of civil war?

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  1. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

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    We now know that Trump was pressuring Pence into stopping the certification of the election. If Pence would have given in, the GOP House would have re-elected Trump as president against the will of the voters, because the GOP represented the majority of states in the House. That's how close we came to a takeover of the government by an unelected person.

    Now, if that had happened, what do you think the public response would have been? Would the majority of the voters have just said "thank you very much" and continued with their daily routine? Or would the Dem voters have felt cheated and started public unrest? Think about what you would have done if a president of the party you oppose would have instigated such an obvious power grab.

    Now, I am not saying a civil war is imminent, but widespread public unrest, absolutely.
     
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    Flynn from Az Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, ten years ago I would never have imagined that bored middle class white kids would dress up
    Like sexually confused ninjas, and take over six city blocks in Seattle, run the cops off, and start armed patrols, while it was being called the “Summer of Love”.

    But, these are the times we live in.
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Would you like to change your oppinion on the topic since very few people agree with you?
     
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    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    Nope. I don't need anybody's validation. It stands.
     
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    Once the Dems see all their money flying out the bank we conservative will sit back, smile and watch them make all the corrections ;)

    Money is everything in controlling a Democrats state of mind!
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Agreed! Pocket money sways the minds today..
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We currently have authoritarian rule and a President that does not honor the judiciary.

    We have Leftists / Globalists that are trying to force their mandates, rule, and beliefs on those that want nothing to do with them. There is only so much Constitutionalists, Freedom Lovers, and those opposed to despots will take before they rise up against the Democratic Party that is facilitating all of it.
     
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    I live rural conservative America, the majority of leftist live in leftist packed cities, can't have civil war within you own garrisons, that would be silly ;)
     
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    Id have gone with "These are the CRAZY times we live in today" :)
     
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    or elect a reality tv star President that many would worship the ground he walked on

    then when he lost, storm the capital to try and overturn the election

    definitely some strange times we live in.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If anyone wants to see what lockstep partisan beliefs are that do not align with reality.... here you go.
     
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    I'm sorry, but Biden and the Dems won, so they have the constitutional right to implement the policies that his voters voted for. Just like Trump had the right to implement the policies his voters voted for when he won. I didn't like those Trump policies. That didn't make him a despot. You don't get to pick and chose which rules you obey or not, depending whether you like the president in office. If you want Biden out, vote for Trump, that's how it works.
     
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    I don't think you understand how it is supposed to work with the 3 branches of the U.S. Government.

    https://nypost.com/2021/08/06/biden...outing-the-law-to-please-crackpot-socialists/

    The Democrats are ignoring the judiciary.

    You are so stuck on Orange Man Bad, that you missed the point completely. It's weird watching you Leftists unable to properly function anymore.
     
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    yep, there ya go ^
     
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    Reasons why Americans won’t have a civil war ...

    Too out of shape, can’t run up a hill, can’t dig a foxhole,

    Insurance won’t cover civil war losses or injuries,

    Interferes with previous plans like vacations, travel, holidays, birthdays, etc,

    Your boss says you have to work that day,

    You find out that the battlefield accommodations and food are not to your liking,

    There’s no WiFi where the battle is,

    The local civil war commander doesn’t validate your feelings, and ...

    They started the civil war right when the next season of “Yellowstone” was starting. WTF!!!
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do We Know that Trump was pressuring Pence to not certify
    the Election.Do you have a Trump quote to back that up.Or a Pence
    quote.I get it we're Back to anonymous sources to Bedevil Trump.
    We had over 3 years of that Crap.Then a Big Zero when it came to
    the Mueller Special Council Witch hunt.Now we have Durham with an
    Indictment proving there Was a Deep State.Trump had his campaign
    staff spied on.An Inspector General { Horowirz } also proved those
    4 F.I.S.A. Warrants were not Kosher.We now have a better take as to why.
    Biden now has the most diastrous and untrustworthy Administration
    in American History.Getting more disastrous by the week.
    The Democrats led by Barbara Boxer in 2oo4 tried to have that election
    de-certified.She did it again in 2016 against Trump being certified along with
    7 members of congress who are still in Congress.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess you think it cutesy to make jokes while our Country is being
    hijacked.The same way as Australia.Only they came first.
    One way it is being done is to legitimize being Immoral.Turning americans
    into zombies or ignoramus incapable of thinking about duty,purpose
    brotherliness and tenets of morality.Going along to getting along.
    Being spoon-fed a diet of Fear and Loathing.Finding easy ways to hate ones
    neighbor while praising Liars who cavalierly talk-down any American Dream.
    Changing History and language in order to accomodate
    weakness and any form of American Spirit.No more rugged
    individualism.An Us vs.Them movement.
     
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    Maybe the real question should be, why do Repubs still listen to Rump? If they treated him like they treated every other Repub who LOST, then we wouldn't be where we are today, but somehow Donald is the exception. WHY? Answer that.
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many feel Trump was cheated out of his win. I honestly don't know if he was but I'm ready to have someone other than Trump. I'm not excited about him anymore and part of that is the aftermath from the 2020 election which was due to Trump.
     
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    That is how it will happen if it does.Trump, supported by the Billionaires Cabal will hire mercenaries but it won't work. They'll take his money then turn him in. Nobody is crazy enough to go head to head with the US Army and why should they? Trump would certainly throw them under the bus at the first sign his coup is failing. Coups depend on the military first and foremost and Trump's treatment and denigration of the military means he has little support among them
     
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    Don’t disagree with you, and I’m not making fun of any of that. Just making fun of the civil war talk. Cheers!
     
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    Foreigners such as yourself should study the Constitution before proclaiming what is in it and what parts of it mean. You are so far off it's pathetic.

    Any state can choose to not certify or decertify an election result. That is the right of the state. If any Presidential candidate doesn't get 270 electoral college votes, there is a process in the Constitution that determines the winner. And if you don't like our Constitution, well you know what you can do. People bitch and complain about the two party system, but if we had 3 or 4 viable parties, reaching 270 would become the exception, not the rule.
     
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    I cannot say for sure, but it seems to me you have repeated this line multiple times, or others of similar mindset have posted the same. Do you realize how pathetic an excuse that sounds? How many decades have gone by with Repub Cons laughing at the feelings of the poor, or those who ask for justice, or those who live by their words? We don't rely on "feelings" to count votes.

    While I realize you do not speak for the entire MAGA community, I doubt this would give the rest of America a warm fuzzy feeling. Maybe the MAGA folks may pick a smarter and more dangerous leader next time. It's gonna be hard for the GOP to shake off the stink of anti-democracy.
     
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    All of that is reality. Are you talking about an alternative reality (like "alternative facts")?
     
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    Not because he loves to talk incessantly.But for Results.No matter how
    much the Democrats insist he be stopped and right quick.
    Trump benefitted both America and Americans.At the expense of
    himself and his net worth.Unlike an Obama or Biden.Biden is also a
    cheapskate when it came to Charities.Or paying his Fair Share
    of Taxes.The Guy earns Millions with Investments and yet only payed
    taxes on a salary { declared salary } of $ 800,000
    Trump got jobs for most americans looking for jobs.He attained the
    Lowest Unemployment ever recorded for Blacks.{ And Hispanics }.
    Trump had to fight { tooth and nail } to get a border wall built.
    Trump did what all other Presidents only talke about.
    Making Jerusalem the city of our Embassy.
    Trump stopped Isis.Created Oil Independence for the first time
    in U.S. History.Maintained a secure border.Helped halt the influx
    of dangerous drug smuggling.Plus sale of stuff like Oxycontin.
    Trump built-up our National Defense.Modernized equipment.
    ALL of these Positives under Trump have been discombobulated by some
    Crazed and habitual Liar who couldn't act any faster to acheive some nefarious
    Unamerican weaponoization.
     

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