NIH letter debunks 'gain of function' denia

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    Wow... the staff really wanted to bury this thread.

    How this is not "news" is amazing. This is huge news and the topic is totally buried.
     
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    So it is looking more and more like we poked and prodded Mother Nature and she finally bit back with a vengeance. As to Fauci, I'll leave that up to courts, but I don't think he did any different than any other politician would have done in his shoes. Right, left, center, doesn't matter. They all lie to cover their own butt. I will say that I sincerely doubt his intentions were to expose the world to a pandemic.
     
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    Dems in Congress send a criminal referral??? Garland begin an investigation and prosecution??? BWAHAHAHAHAHA.....continuing to investigate the "Selfie Uprising" and Federalizing alleged misdemeanors against local school boards is all those worthless hacks have time for.
     
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    Lying Anthony Fauci’s metaphysical get-out-of-jail-free card.
    As Dana Loesch tweeted last night, after the NIH admitted it funded gain of function research, “Lot of people owe Rand Paul an apology.”

    Rand Paul has been consistently correct, the entire time.
     
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    How y’all feel about putting these clowns in complete charge of your healthcare? LOL

    Trust the experts they said…
     
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    Maybe the staff here won't bury this story which should lead all newscasts. This is huge news that we finally have the admission from the NIH. We all knew it was true.... well all of us non-lock steppers.

    Fauci is the God Father of the CV-19 Virus. He should be charged with Crimes Against Humanity. Initially, they should arrest and charge him now for lying repeatedly to the U.S. Congress while under oath.

    They did Gain of Function and now it is documented and admitted.
     
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    Fauci is the only Federal employee that earns more than our POTUS. He's been around forever and a day through several Administrations. He knows how to play politics.
     
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    How dare you be critical of Science! Dont tell me you are one of those anti science "anti-vaxxers"!
     
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    This should be a bigger scandal than Watergate. The government lied about funding that research for two years, over and over, and went along with Facebook and Twitter banning the lab leak as some weird conspiracy theory. Fauci should be fired and charged with lying to Congress...apparently multiple times.

    Instead he'll retire as a hero of the establishment.
     
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    Lock him up, lock him up. The typical Trumper battle call for people on the Trumper no likey list. That should make their lives better, locking up an 80 year old guy who devoted his life to fighting infectious disease, including Aids.
     
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    And that's what we DON'T need in that position. Biden should request his resignation.
     
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    Even though I knew this was a possibility, this bombshell is a bit shocking, mostly because of Dr. Fauci denying this, or at least answering in a way that intentionally gave the impression that he was denying it. Did anyone have more luck than me, getting to see the actual NIH letter? (I downloaded a PDF file, but was unable to view it). I would only like to confirm that NIH did this through NIAID, of which
    Fauci is the Director. NIAID is only 1 of 27 "ICs" of NIH, (which stands for Institutes or Centers). Still, it seems likely, based on the divisions of NIAID, which include Immunology, among other things, that this is the IC that was used and, therefore there is no excuse for Fauci to not have been aware of it. And he must have realized that the truth would, eventually, be known. So it is a head-scratcher, that Fauci would lie, or even mislead about this.
     
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    I'll bet one percent of people even know what gain of function is. It is when you intentionally make viruses more lethal. Should be called gain of lethal function. Fauci spearheaded it and should be imprisoned.
     
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    NIH never admitted to funding gain of function testing.

    Article is lying.
     
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    My wife never admits to being wrong. I guess she's always right.....
     
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    He lies and flip flops constantly. Yet dems love the guy. Not shocking tbh. Par for the course. He will get away with it since dems can’t be seen siding against someone the right dislikes.
     
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    Fauci Funded 'Cruel' Puppy Experiments Where Sand Flies 'Eat Them Alive'; Vocal Cords Severed
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    WTF Anthony...
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    He's sick twisted dishonest and unethical

    Fauci Says Attacking Puppy Torture Is An Attack On Science
     
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    Happy to see him fired And charged if he knew and lied.
    If he should have known but didn’t, fire him.
     
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    I would love to know what Fauci's activities were in the 60s. A gay Communist like Obama before he became mainstream? Maybe.
     
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    Show me in the letter where it states they admitted to funding gain of function testing. All they said was they funded research into whether or not spike proteins in coronaviruses could attach to ACE2 in mouse models. I don't see anything about funding for potential gain of function.
     
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