Literally hundreds of Trump believers engaging in telephone terrorism

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  1. Junkieturtle

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    I think in this instance a fair amount of blame can be put on Trump for spurring on the whole election fraud narrative as an ego defense to his election loss. Not for the individual's actions, as those are owned by the individuals alone, but for creating the atmosphere where people are buying into his lies and taking it so far that they're threatening people. Maybe there's no legal liability here, but certainly a moral and ethical one. While Donald Trump didn't invent election fraud narratives, he's certainly thrust them into the spotlight in a way not seen since the year 2000, and if you ask me, in a much more militant and in your face way than we saw then. Of course, the latter may be a sign of the times, as it was a different political atmosphere 20 years ago.

    But in any case, if people do get hurt, it will be because Donald Trump's ego needed protecting, and he egged on thousands of people to do it for him by filling their ears with idiotic nonsense that they were unaware or unwilling to see for what it was. I suspect there's a percentage of the Big Lie supporters who know it's nonsense but like the opportunity to rebel nonetheless. I think there's probably a few folks like that right here on this forum.
     
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    Yeah, this guy has rarely if ever started a post where he's not ragging on Trump. This guy said he voted for Reagan and then hadn't voted for a Republican since. Reagan and Trump himself were once Democrats until they saw the losing ways of that party before becoming Republican. Obviously this guy hasn't learned the lesson of how much Reagan and Trump benefitted America. I believe Trump gave us even more Conservative policies then even Reagan did. Wouldn't it be a breath of fresh air to see the author of this post change his tune for once, by starting a post that gives us all the amazing accomplishments of biden's 10 months as president?
     
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    All they have is Trump. If they could say anything beneficial about Biden, they would, The left is the actual Trump cultist. 11 months after the election and half the threads are still about regurgitating Trumpisms.
     
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  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    do you even read the FBI and Homeland security reports?

    doesn't sound like it
     
  5. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I/6 was an attack on the nation's seat of democracy, and it was inspired by the president.

    In terms of significance, NOTHING TRUMPS THAT.

    NOTHING, except a foreign nation declaring war.
     
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    not a merit worthy counter argument,

    to the 'fail' file you go.
     
  7. Patricio Da Silva

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    Another tired, old, response. Dems are commies, yadda yadda

    Not a merit worthy argument.

    I could just easily call republicans fascist. But it's not an argument, it's not a worthy debate point, it's just mudslinging.

    A worthy debate would be, say, about the efficacy of the stimulus bill, something like that.

    But calling each othe names only contributes to people shouting past each other.

    But, apparently, that's all you are interested in.
     
  8. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Death threats inspired by the president.

    You are ignoring the issue.
     
  9. Patricio Da Silva

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    But on the right, we have voluminous death threats all inspired by the president

    The 'both sides' argument just doesn't compare.
     
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    Guess what!
    Exploiting a pandemic to change the secure voting system to ancient paper ballots to easily steal an a election has consequences.
    He then used to it!
    I hope the STEAL was worth it
     
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    Do you make any distinction between such threats being a reaction to unwelcome truth versus being a reaction to dangerous and damaging outright lies?

    Do you make any distinction between such threats being a reaction to attempts to correct serious problems versus being a reaction to harmful acts damaging our democracy and tending more and more toward totalitarian dictatorship?
     
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    There is no issue.

    Do you have any reason to believe he encouraged them to make those death threats?

    I know you want to believe this so badly.

    And you think people who believe in religion are silly. How ironic.
     
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    Blind patriotism you bet.
     
  14. NullSpot the Destroyter

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    You couldn't call Republicans fascists because you have nothing of consequence to back it up. As for calling Democrats authoritarian Leftists, well we have BLM, antifa, American Communist party, FBI, DoJ, mainstream media, and the social media companies, all colluding it efforts to strip Americans of their Constitutional rights to speak their minds freely, associate with whom they wish, and bear arms, along with the expectation that voting will be fair and honest. Chew on that.
     
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    At some point in the last 15 years, Leftists lost the ability to debate issues. Now they scream abuse or clamp their hands over their ears while screaming "not a merit worthy counter argument".

    It's sad, really. I used to relish crushing their pathetic political pretensions.
     
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    Of course Trump had the right to call out a bogus election. The FBI had been used against him, people had invented one false accusation after another and the media ran with them without any attempt to provide balance, and he'd been impeached for the flimsiest of reasons by political hacks who cared nothing about this country's welfare, just personal power. But he hoped the ballot box would set things right, and then the Democrats destroyed that great American tradition, cheating their way into the presidency. Trump would have let America down had he not had the strength of character to accuse the Dems of thieving the election.
     
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    There is no evidence of a steal, only Trump's failed attempt to steal. I'm glad we stopped the steal.
     
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    I get it, you know how to cut and paste and are rightfully proud of having discovered that as a way to avoid a clever response.

    But what is the "fail file"? I thought it was the ignore feature so many Leftists cling to when confronted by reality, but you're still talking to me. So I'm mildly mystified.
     
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    There is no "right" to delusional bull ****. There was no bogus election. Trump failed in his attempts to make it bogus. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
     
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    Let's see if I can play too!!! There was a right, it wan't delusional bull****. There WAS a bogus election. Trump absolutely succeeded in his calling it out as bogus, hence Democrats having to ring the nation's capital in barbed wire and troops, and the social media clamping down on all mention of the Democrats having STOLEN the election (does a legitimate victor need to descend to such measures?).
     
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    Because Trump is still the leader of the party and is still the most significant threat to democracy our nation faces. I thought the GOP would have abandoned him by now, too. But they haven't. He may even be more influential in the party now than before.
     
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    If you or Trump had evidence of a "bogus election," you would have presented it. You both have failed. Because this isn't about facts for either of you, only your feelings. The facts don't care about your feelings. Your God Emperor lost. None of your feelings will change that fact. It's time to move on.
     
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    I did and was not impressed. So feel free to quote the passages you think disprove what I said.
     
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    There's evidence aplenty, but when evidence mysteriously disappears, and all the accused clam up, and there's no serious attempt to get them to talk, well, then we only have the evidence of what we see, and past experience with Democrats cheating during elections.

    It was stolen and you guys will find out, as you have so many other times you've cheated, that payback's a very mean thing.
     
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