Girl, 14, killed by LA police in clothing store shooting

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  1. Wadsworth

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    You don't act on beliefs, you act on facts
     
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    Yes it is..Next
     
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    Yes and it WAS edited.
     
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    You don't continue until you respond to what I asked

    So about this survey you are claiming they should have waited to complete before entering the building and confronting the active shooter................please elaborate on it, how were they supposed to do it, at what point would they say OK we can go in now? How long?
     
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    It is easy to see that there are no people shot, and that the man is beating the woman with a chain. Does not take much surveying for that.
     
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    Saying it was edited without any proof is silly, you know.
     
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    No it's not, property are on the floor bleeding. The criminal was carrying a deadly weapon and using it as one.

    Try again

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    You don't continue until you respond to what I asked

    So about this survey you are claiming they should have waited to complete before entering the building and confronting the active shooter................please elaborate on it, how were they supposed to do it, at what point would they say OK we can go in now? How long? Were theyvsupposed to ask the criminal to just hang on for a minute while they did this survey?
     
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    The video itself is proof. Like it or lump it.
     
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    Agreed. A taser could have easily taken the guy down.
     
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    The vid jumps straight from where they first see the perp to then where the perp is laying on the ground. This seems like a jump (edit) right at the most critical point. He's also holding something in front of him which makes it difficult to determine what kind of weapon he might be concealing. That in conjunction with people bleeding on the ground, officers gotta immediately take that shot. Terrible accident that a bullet ricocheted to where the girl was located.

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    How far away was he? Was he moving. Was he wearing bulk clothing?

    You are posting pure conjecture.
     
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    Good point. I have no idea.
     
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    Yeah, the police were responding to reports of shots fired and a possible active shooter. In the video we can see that the police are finding blood on the ground and injured victims. The perp is acting crazy and holding something in front of him so you can't tell what kind of weapons he may be carrying. Could be suicidal to walk up to him with a taser.
     
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    Watch the videos that have been posted.
     
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    Look at the clothing he is wearing. TASERS aren't used against guns and people actively shooting them, guns are used.
     
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    Remember a suspect is innocent until proven guilty, so no police officer has ever killed a guilty person.
     
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    Is there a point in there somewhere? Do you make a distinction between a person actively committing a violent crime and must be stopped immediate even if it requires lethal force and a person who has been arrested and now facing the judicial system to determine any legal sanctions and that in that trial yes the jury starts with a presumption of innocence?
     
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    A statement of fact does not require a point. Maybe we should presume guilt first. Then policemen can kill only guilty suspects.
     
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    You are not supposed to act on assumptions, you are supposed to act on facts
     
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    Well, you saw an edited version. I saw the entire cam
     
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    Perhaps you can provide the link then. I have only seen the one posted multiple times in this thread.
     
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    It wasn't an assumption it was the reported fact and the person was trying to kill people.
     
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    So they are supposed to pin down the person trying to kill others, or may have already, call in a judge and a jury and hold a trial?
     
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    We are talking about an active shooter here, not someone trying to kill someone
     
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    It turns out it was an active assault.
    Did anyone say, "Put down the weapon, keep your hands where I can see them and move away from the person on the ground."
     

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